Assisted dying, yes or no?
www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/13/assisted-dying-bill-lord-falcone

I'be been asked a few times by patients, but ethically bound to say no. Regardless of my personal belief. When did ethics get in your way?
(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:53, 99 replies, latest was 10 years ago)

I think there should be some kind of legal framework for this, yes
I'd hate to spend years in agony if I could check out with no pain
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:54, Reply)

Watching Mrs Cow's mum in agony and struggling to breathe was not a good thing

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:00, Reply)

I've seen this sort of thing lot, it's fucking bad.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:06, Reply)

You should have possibly stopped standing on her chest

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:20, Reply)

We'd run out of chairs

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:23, Reply)

c

Chemo lulz
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:25, Reply)

No chemo
Too late for that when found
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:28, Reply)

Latht time I tried to go to Ipthwich

( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:54, Reply)

good god, I'm hilarious

( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:54, Reply)

I applaud this pun

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:56, Reply)

With great humility, I accept the awesome burden of your applause, nay, your admiration

( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:57, Reply)

I too applaud this pun

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:59, Reply)

I ignored this bun

( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:02, Reply)

Quit while you're ahead, there's a good chap.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:03, Reply)

I'm ahead?
ooh
( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:04, Reply)

I shall reserve judgement.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:57, Reply)

Oh no, I assure you
I am extremely witty.
( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:02, Reply)

That's dreadful
(just because I was thinking of a very similar one)
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:02, Reply)

2nd class return to Nottingham. ^

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:02, Reply)

Exthellent.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:14, Reply)

dont know dont care

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 10:58, Reply)

I'd help you to die

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:00, Reply)

you do everyday little by little

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:00, Reply)

All the time.
Turns out you can't ever eat meat if you decide to be vegetarian.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:00, Reply)

Fucking hell, really?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:01, Reply)

Absolutely never.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:00, Reply)

Even if the quality of life was shit, the patient had limited time, and they wanted it?

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:05, Reply)

Yes of course - I'd make sure they paid me up front, though - nothing would happen until the money had cleared.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:09, Reply)

Do they have to be sick? Not that it matters, if any of you lot need a little help just let me know.
Ethics got in my way when I wanted to take all my holiday with 6 months left of the year and work told me ethically they have a duty of care to make sure I have days available for the remainder of the year just in case.

What a load of fucking bollocks.
( Peej, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:03, Reply)

Eh?
Is this written down? You have x hols to take in a year, not x/12 a month
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:10, Reply)

Its not that I had to take some each month.
It was that they didn't want me to work 6 months afterwards without taking a holiday day.
( Peej, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:49, Reply)

What b3tan would you like to assist, and how?

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:07, Reply)

Frog helps swipe disguise the true colour of her hair
ASSISTED DYEING!!!!!!!! LOL
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:10, Reply)

WE SAW A YURT YESTERDAY AND WE ALL LAUGHED AT YOU
SO THERE!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:14, Reply)

You mean 'with' me, right?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:15, Reply)

No.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:15, Reply)

Haha we really are great forum chums!

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:16, Reply)

We all went 'look it's tangles' house! what a wanker' and laughed like drains

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:17, Reply)

at you

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:17, Reply)

we laughed AT you

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:17, Reply)

I feel a bit bad now that I didn't think about any of you at all over the weekend

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:18, Reply)

dont lie

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:19, Reply)

I thought of you loads xx

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:21, Reply)

youre a bit creepy sometimes doc

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:22, Reply)

My thoughts did linger on your cunt for a while on Saturday, I'll admit.

( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:24, Reply)

officelol

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:25, Reply)

He roadies for dozer too. Assisted djing.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:15, Reply)

This one doesn't work as well, please delete it.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:16, Reply)

No, piss off. It'smy thread.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:20, Reply)

^Is Dr. Alban^

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:06, Reply)

i'm a lawyer. you do the math.
been looking at last minute holidays. why do people hate russians so much? every 5 star hotel review, trip advisor sneers: "this is actually a 3 star hotel aimed at russians, and it's full of russians, we hate russians."

why?!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:14, Reply)

Because they wear crap tracksuits with proper shoes

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:16, Reply)

Homophobic lols

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:16, Reply)

Yes.
If youa re of sound mental mind. If not, you give someone as Power of Attorney
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:16, Reply)

Only if by "assisted" you mean "enforced"

( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:19, Reply)

Ethics always get in the way with me, but because I hold them in too high regard.
Always think about how others see me. Am often disgusted with other people's lack of.
Especially you London counts.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:36, Reply)

ONE tube strike AH AH AHHHH

( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:37, Reply)

Others see you as a fat bald queer hth xx

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:38, Reply)

I too, am often disgusted at other peoples' lack of.

( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:44, Reply)

Endings

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:46, Reply)

+happy

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:52, Reply)

Swedish coffee tables

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:46, Reply)

sentence structure

( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:47, Reply)

It's more other peoples' lack of that disgusts me.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:48, Reply)

pricks.

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:49, Reply)

I wonder if there was a lot more assisted dying in the past,
Before every action of every doctor was scrutinised? I can imagine an old village doctor pumping a few sedatives in to a well known old man to stop him living for a few measly months in agony.
There ought to be a legal framework for it for sure, but I guess with serious injuries and disability there is going to be problems with gaining consent in a way that satisfies courts and such.
Tl:Dr, go go euthanasia!
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:49, Reply)

Thats all Harold Shipman was doing

( Peej, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:55, Reply)

My other half has this argument all the time.
We are the only species that take care of our elderly an invalid. They are also costly.
BURN THEM ALL
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:55, Reply)

No we're not.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:57, Reply)

I think elephants might too. They also grieve their dead.
You never see a downs Lion. Maybe a tiger.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:03, Reply)

We're also the only species capable of self-awareness and compassion.

( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:57, Reply)

No we're not
My goldfish loves me and knows my name!
( Peej, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:03, Reply)

Compassion maybe
But several animals have been proven self aware. Or did you mean both at the same time?
( Peej, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:04, Reply)

I just mean that comparing us with animals is an invalid argument.

( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:06, Reply)

Not always
If you stop a "lesser" animal from suffering why shouldn't you stop a humans
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:11, Reply)

I don't see that as a counterpoint, it's human compassion that puts the animal down.
You won't catch an animal doing that for another animal.

The subject of doing it for humans versus animals is about the clash between that same compassion and the concept of the sanctity of human life. In both cases they're human attributes and the comparison with the animal kingdom is irrelevant.
( Kroney, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:14, Reply)

I'm not sure money is the issue here, at least, it's not something I consider when looking at the reasons for assisted suicide.
There are far more costly disabled and obese and other such people that we aren't talking about killing.
It should be about quality of life.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:00, Reply)

I think the only argument is this.
Would people let their beloved pet suffer in pain, in which case why would you not do the same for a human...




(Unless of course they are bumders in which case they will die of the AIDS as per Gods great plan)
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:03, Reply)

Cat AIDS :(

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 12:04, Reply)

I'd let Dignitas treat me for the hangover I'm currently suffering.

( Slippery Mick ‏, Mon 14 Jul 2014, 11:58, Reply)