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# are we in it this year?
I haven't heard owt, is it someone famous or the usual utter plank?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 28 May 2010, 14:59, archived)
# The latter.
Written by 2/3 of Stock Aitken and Waterman, Sung by Joe McXfactor wannabe - utter, utter dross.
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Fri 28 May 2010, 15:01, archived)
# Mike Stock's autobiography is unintentionally
very funny.

He refers to gangsta rappers as "black rappers" throughout.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 28 May 2010, 15:05, archived)
# :D
I'm assuming the non-gangster original variety is that sung by artistes such as PJ and Duncan and The Reynolds Girls
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 28 May 2010, 15:06, archived)
# He's really bitter about rap
not being "proper music", and then has the most stereotyped ideas about what rap actually is.

At no point does he realise how lucky he is to have taken so little so far.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 28 May 2010, 15:09, archived)
# how and why do you know that?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 28 May 2010, 15:05, archived)
# erm
blame Nibus. Yes, Nibus told me.

He did actually.
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Fri 28 May 2010, 15:08, archived)
# Stock, Aitken and Waterboarding
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 28 May 2010, 15:13, archived)
# It's really shite
I don't know why we don't get someone who writes decent pop songs to enter it, such as Cathy Dennis or Richard X.

(I found this amazing use for our entry from a few years back: www.youtube.com/watch?v=77iDIp40m9E)
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 28 May 2010, 15:04, archived)
# Oh thanks
I'd forgotten all about that monstrosity

:)

(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Fri 28 May 2010, 15:08, archived)
# I quite like it.
The Cuban Boys / Spray (its writers) are always enjoyably silly.

They also did this work of brilliance (from the newsletter a while back) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFM140rju4k
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 28 May 2010, 15:12, archived)