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# again, not his firing a taser in question
its the suggestion that he is to blame for the gun firing as opposed to a legitimate attempt to disarm.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 9:57, archived)
# The IPCC are investigating but contrary to what you might hear it's as a matter of procedure.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:01, archived)
# Personally I think regardless of his role in the tazer-usage on Moat
the whole gurning to the camera shows a high level of unprofessionalism given the sensitivity of the siege situation. He should, if for no other reason, be brought to book for his childish gung-ho behaviour during this ordeal.

As for b3ta the whole gurning makes him a perfect meme to have the piss ripped out of him, Freebase is a very popular meme and that bloke didn't really do anything nearly as wrong as this Policeman other than have his photo taken during a rowing competition :D
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:23, archived)
# I'VE NOTHING AGAINST THE PHOTO!!! :D
although I didn't see it as gurning when I saw it, I read his expression more as a snapshot of a man talking or possibly shouting "get that fucking camera out of my face can't you see I'm a little tied up right now" :D
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:25, archived)
# pissage!
:D
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:27, archived)
# This
Or possibly even shouting, "Get the fuck down, you stupid arse of a photographer. That bloke over there has a fucking shotgun". If he was trying to save the photographer's life, I bet he now wishes to hell that he hadn't bothered.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:52, archived)
# Could it not be the case that
he was signalling to the cameraman his displeasure of their being in that location taking photos? Signalling that is, without taking the weapon off the dangerous gun murderer?

I admit, the facial expression doesn't exactly give that impression...but hey innocent until...and all that ;)
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:26, archived)
# Yeah I thought that too and looking at the expression of the non-uniformed man next to him it does
indeed look like that could be true. However, shouting and gurning to Photographers is not exactly tactful behaviour given the situation and more like to provoke a negative response that a bunch of prats with cameras looking for that Front Page shot, it also shows the lack of control the Police have in securing the area.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:34, archived)
# nah, I get that,
but I'd rather they were concentrating on the task at hand,
rather thatn thinking about what they look like in front of a cameraman.

although you can't guarantee impartiality from all police officers all the time either, so I'd defend the press in their right to take the pictures too.

again, it's going to be down to how the humans involved respond to the moral necessities at the time; although external pressures like "getting the scoop" sometimes outweight morality in the case of the press, occasionaly the police murder black people. it's swings and roundabouts.
/note sarcasm in the above statement ;D


(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:44, archived)
# From the photo, I dont think you can tell if he;s pulling that face for the benefit of the camera or not.
As for memes, I think theyre all shit - the b3ta equivalent of catch-phrase based comedy.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:29, archived)
# No like I said above, I do think the gurn was caused because he was shouting at the cameraman
but really he could have controlled the situation better by quietly radioing for some uniform to come in and pull away the prat of a Photograher.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:38, archived)
# That's what she said.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:38, archived)
# Isn't it entirely possible that...
he just really, really needed a shit? I mean, he must have been there for hours. Imagine holding in a turtle's head for that long.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 11:24, archived)
# Mystery, like good soup, thickens.
As BLD said, we'll just have to wait until we're told.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 10:25, archived)