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# I want your dinner money and your child benefit


David is smiling at Gideon's improbably shaped head.
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:10, archived)
# GIDEON YOU CUNT!
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:11, archived)
# I shouted at Jon Snow last night
cos he calls him George.

I think the news should call him Gideon
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:12, archived)
# I think the news should refer to him
as the future Baronet of Ballintaylor, the cunt.
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:22, archived)
# This works also
the cunt
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:34, archived)
# His head is also very bright
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:12, archived)
# Hahaha poor boris
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:15, archived)
# hahaha
and yes, yes it is!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:24, archived)
# Wot a barstard!
(I helped save b3ta! Lord Kronos Go Team Pachyderm, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:13, archived)
# hahaha
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:18, archived)
# Haha, in related news:
I'm loving this story over at the Guardian in which a well-off father of five complains that he needs that child benefit money to take his kids to football practice and McDonald's.
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:20, archived)
# oh dear
that's a helpful argument.
Silly cunt shouldn't have had so many fucking children!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:28, archived)
# ^This^
It beggars belief that some many people think they should get 'free petty cash' from the public purse for no good reason.
(Bad Monkey hasn't had an abusive gaz since, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:31, archived)
# There's got to be some compensation for having children
I mean FFS it's not all fairgrounds and fireworks!
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:41, archived)
# It's not his fault
he thought the state would (and should) pay for them forever
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:33, archived)
# Perhaps Gideon should consider scrapping child benefit
for every child after the 2nd one.
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:39, archived)
#
Don't the Chinese have a similar system? You get benefit for your first sprog, but they take it away if you have more.
IIRC it was intended to control population growth, but the end result is more backstreet abortions.
(Bad Monkey hasn't had an abusive gaz since, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:44, archived)
# Not exactly
You get allowed a first child but you have to scrap any subsequent children, or do you pick your favourite, I don't know how it works.
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:49, archived)
# I once read that they leave sickly or unwanted (usually girl) children in the woods to die.
Could be apocryphal, could be true.
(I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 13:27, archived)
# Fuckin' right 'n all
For family's earning over £44.000 a year
Nicely done shop
(I helped save b3ta! Frogbeat, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:26, archived)
#
Isn't it for earners of over 44k?

So you can have two people who earn 43k and still claim?

Still, a step in the right direction IMO.
(Bad Monkey hasn't had an abusive gaz since, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:29, archived)
# Yes, that's the problem
the system he has proposed is unfair as one family who earn a combined income of 86k could still get child benefit, whereas their next door neighbours have only one earner who's on 44k will not.

The reason that child benefit is universal is because the only fair way for it not to be involves means testing, which would cost more than just giving it to everyone does.

(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:35, archived)
# But they already means test the child tax credits
So I don't get why it would be so hard to means test this one too.
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:44, archived)
# You apply for tax credits, so only people who think they're going to qualify get tested
rather than having to check up on everyone who has children (I'm just guessing here).

To be honest, I don't see why means testing would be so hard either, but that's the long-standing argument for keeping child benefit universal.

edit/ now I'm off to spend my daughter's child benefit on lunch while I still can...
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:50, archived)
# Good plan!
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:56, archived)
# That's correct
they wouldn't be the tories if they didn't shaft single parents harder than everyone else
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:35, archived)