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# That was going well until you mentioned the atomic wieght of silver.
As the atomic weights rise throughout the periodic table it was sheer inevitability that one element would have atomic weight near 108.

It also has no link with the other three measurements. It's like suddenly saying 'Oh yeah, and my house number is 108!'
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:46, archived)
# the link
was silver has always been associated with the moon in ancient cultures ;)

(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:47, archived)
# Haha - I know what you mean.
But silver is a 'cool' metal. If it had been, say, tungsten, it wouldn't have seemed worth mentioning.

edit: and it's associated with the moon. That too.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:49, archived)
# I have a collection of 108 spoons.
It was 122, but I've thrown 14 away.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:53, archived)
# come on you stubborn bugger ;)
which element has been most associated with the moon by ancient yogis (which is where I sourced this info)?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:56, archived)
# Spoon rhymes with moon.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:04, archived)
# cat
rhymes with stubborn twat!
;)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:07, archived)
# I'm just giving myself a reason to not get back to work
using the righteous banner of SCIENCE as my excuse.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:09, archived)
# science
Distance between earth and sun = 108 x sun-diameter

sun diameter:
-1,392,000 km ("Sun" Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia. 6th ed. Columbia University Press, 2003)
- 1,400,000 km (Namowitz, Samuel N. and Spaulding, Nancy E. Earth Science. Evanston, IL: McDougal Littell Company, 1999)
- 1,390,000 km (The Amazing Structure of the Sun. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), 2003)
- 1,380,000 km (Namowitz, Samuel N., and Nancy E. Spaulding. Heath Earth Science. Lexington, MA: Heath, 1994: 398.)

The distance between the earth and the Sun is called an Astrological Unit (AU).
1 AU = 149,597,870.691 kilometers
Even though this is the number given there are multiple places where variability gets into the numbers. One way is the elliptical orbit of the earth around the Sun.
Perihelion: 147.5 million km, about January 4th
Aphelion 152.6 million km, about July 4th (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast04jan_1.htm)


Taking the mean distance between the earth and the Sun ( 149,597,870.691 km) and dividing it by the most commonly used diameter of the Sun (1,392,000 km) =

107.46973469181034482758620689655. which is 1% within 108

108 also turns up with calculating the other distances and circumferences too
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:12, archived)
# SCIENCE!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:20, archived)
# Ancient Yogis?
I read somewhere that an English Doctor took Meditative Stretching to India during the Raj era and gave it a name pinched out of religious text. No such thing as "Ancient" Yogis....
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:06, archived)
# ok ancient teaching
practised by yogis. pedant
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:10, archived)
# The Bhagavad Gita was also inspired by and based upon
an overheard Robert Oppenheimer comment
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:17, archived)
# and all you needed
was a knife
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:06, archived)
# Not to mention
its extraordinary electrical and thermal conductivity
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:56, archived)
# Ooo yes!
Good call. Silver is awesome.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:01, archived)
# Also, technically, no natural silver atom has a weight of 108.
They're either 107 or 109.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:49, archived)
# yep
but I was using the old caveat I stuck in the post of the 1% margin of error (I made sure I covered my ass before posting) and you can't deny silvers association with the moon in ancient wisdom. thought that was a nice coincidence.

the average of 107 and 109 is 108 though ;)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:51, archived)
# A 1% margin of error would mean that 108 could, acutally, be 107 or 109 and still quallify.
And 107Ag is slightly more abundant that 109 Ag
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:07, archived)
# you certainly know how to split a hair
silver weight is actually 107.8682 which is closer to 108 than 107



(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:20, archived)
# The entire discrepancy can be explained
it's made entirely out of little fractions of 108, added together.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:58, archived)