I just wrote a demo that does full-screen 50fps parallax scrolling on a Speccy.Only to find everyone on b3ta is talking 16-bit and blitters.
Way to make me feel late to the party... ;(
(Way to make me feel late to the party... ;(
joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks,
Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:11,
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16 bit is the new thing in computingjust wait until eggbox 360 and sony trainstation starts launching titles Crysis2 16bit can't wait
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:18,
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There's......a work in progress version of Wolfenstein 3D for the Atari ST right now, it's very playable.
It cheats a bit, all the graphics are stored Planar, rather than using Chunky-to-planar conversion, and there's a lot of pre-calc tables, but it runs full screen at about 15FPS on a stock 8MHz ST, without a BLiTTER, with the same speed and detail you'd see on a 486.
I used to be a tiny bit involved with it (I contributes a few routines that I can't remember now). Just goes to show what you can do when you've got a few decades to think about solving a problem!
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Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:27,
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It cheats a bit, all the graphics are stored Planar, rather than using Chunky-to-planar conversion, and there's a lot of pre-calc tables, but it runs full screen at about 15FPS on a stock 8MHz ST, without a BLiTTER, with the same speed and detail you'd see on a 486.
I used to be a tiny bit involved with it (I contributes a few routines that I can't remember now). Just goes to show what you can do when you've got a few decades to think about solving a problem!
Linkage?Go to 1:48 on this Speccy demo. This is in 48K and pretty good:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MchzKT_oufE
But demo coders are all up there own arses. All these '8-bit Wolfenstein' demos go nowhere as they get the scenery engine going and then fail doing objects.
(www.youtube.com/watch?v=MchzKT_oufE
But demo coders are all up there own arses. All these '8-bit Wolfenstein' demos go nowhere as they get the scenery engine going and then fail doing objects.
joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks,
Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:45,
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Here:www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=17247
Works fine on emulators. Grab a copy of STEeM and a TOS ROM and have fun.
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Wed 17 Aug 2011, 17:11,
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Works fine on emulators. Grab a copy of STEeM and a TOS ROM and have fun.
Nonsense.I'm all about the eight bits. My ST and Falcon may have been my main 'production' computers for a long time (and in some ways, still are) but I'm so eight-bit, I shit SID chips!
I love seeing how far people can push older machines. Seeing an eight-bit Atari 800 doing textured tunnels, or plasma, or texture-mapped objects, on a stock machine with standard RAM and CPU, even though lower-resolution, is far more exciting than seeing say, an amig adoing the same.
People are more cretive when there are more limits. sixteen-bit machines have fewer limitations (unless you're using an Atari ST - a co-processor free design until 1987) so the eight bit demos and recent games are far more exciting and interesting. I once wrote an implementation of Pac-Man on a 1K ZX-81, in BASIC, with basic AI and everything. Astonishingly, WiL wrote almost the same version, about twenty years before we mwt (and eight years before I wrote my version). I squeezed every spare byte out of that machine, even reduced the screen size a couple of line to give me back about twenty bytes for the keyboard routines.
LET X=X+(INKEY$="8")-(INKEY$="5")
...wile stay with me forever.
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Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:24,
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I love seeing how far people can push older machines. Seeing an eight-bit Atari 800 doing textured tunnels, or plasma, or texture-mapped objects, on a stock machine with standard RAM and CPU, even though lower-resolution, is far more exciting than seeing say, an amig adoing the same.
People are more cretive when there are more limits. sixteen-bit machines have fewer limitations (unless you're using an Atari ST - a co-processor free design until 1987) so the eight bit demos and recent games are far more exciting and interesting. I once wrote an implementation of Pac-Man on a 1K ZX-81, in BASIC, with basic AI and everything. Astonishingly, WiL wrote almost the same version, about twenty years before we mwt (and eight years before I wrote my version). I squeezed every spare byte out of that machine, even reduced the screen size a couple of line to give me back about twenty bytes for the keyboard routines.
LET X=X+(INKEY$="8")-(INKEY$="5")
...wile stay with me forever.