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# haha
personally I think they just have a measurement error. I suspect that tectonic movement has taken place between the time they measured the distance (assuming it was accurate anyway) and the time they shot the neutron.

The comments on the BBC article are quite funny. All the armchair physicists have woken up!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:53, archived)
# ah, i haven't read the bbc article, i'll check it out
*not an armchair physicist personally, as i doubt i could hold an intelligent conversation on the subject, but i do like it*
(I helped save b3ta! real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:56, archived)
# for you sir...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:59, archived)
# thank you
(I helped save b3ta! real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 12:16, archived)
# Brian has spoken!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034852
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 12:32, archived)
#
"If true,it could explain why some particles appear to be in 2 places at once - the particle gets from a to b before the light leaves from a. Something I've been thinking about for a long time."

Pity he didn't think about getting an education instead.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:58, archived)
# where's Paul P?
he claimed he thought this up 10 years ago or something
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:00, archived)
# IF I SHOOT A NEUTRON ON EARTH THAT IS GOING AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT
THEN IT'S ALREADY GOING FASTER WHEN YOU ADD THE SPEED OF EARTH'S ROTATION.

CAVEMEN WERE DOING THIS SHIT
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan https://twitter.com/VomitingLarry, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:59, archived)
# wasn't there a painting of a hadron collider dicovered on a cave wall
when they were digging out the foundations for the current one?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:01, archived)
# oh you mind-pissing cunt
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:02, archived)
# haha
not really. Your's was more sciency!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:04, archived)
# :)
same idea though
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:05, archived)
# we should join forces
NOTHING COULD STOP US!

I can't do Tuesdays though, and probably not Saturday mornings.
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:06, archived)
# Wednesdays and Sundays are bad for me.
That leaves us with a fair bit of the week though.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:08, archived)
# HAHA NOTHING WILL STOP US!
oh damn, I've lost my bus pass.
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:09, archived)
# I HAVE OFTEN MARVELED AT HOW GOOD CAVEMEN WERE AT NEUTRINO PHYSICS
THEY TRUMP US EVERY DAMN TIME. LAST YEAR SOMEONE EVEN FOUND A BUNCH OF FEYNMAN DIAGRAMS CARVED INTO A WALL IN SOUTHERN FRANCE. DAMNED FUCKING CAVEMEN GOT THERE WAY BEFORE US! CUNTS.

BUT WE'RE GETTING OUR OWN BACK: WE'RE NOT CITING THEM. HAHAHAHAHA.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:02, archived)
# Is there nothing we can't learn when we look to the ancients?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan https://twitter.com/VomitingLarry, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:05, archived)
# NO
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:07, archived)
# Or a gravity wave
(I helped save b3ta! fuscous, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:02, archived)
# The Italians have a history of "detecting" gravitational waves
This interpretation wouldn't at all surprise me. I"m slightly surprised it's not been made yet. It might be that the wave would be of far too small an amplitude to account for this - after all, it's roughly a 60 foot difference, I think (60ns at the speed of light). That would be one motherfucker of a gravitational wave.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:04, archived)
# perhaps a passing inverse tachyon field
interfered with the neutron?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:05, archived)
# there's laws against that kind of thing
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:08, archived)
# STICK YOUR PRIME DIRECTIVE UP YOUR DARK NEBULA!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:10, archived)
# So it's a *sentient* inverse tachyon beam?
I see.

I was meaning the Pauli exclusion principle. Neutrinos *are* fermions.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:11, archived)
# yes, but... but... YOU SMELL OF POO!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:13, archived)
# :(
That's only because I keep forgetting to buy toilet paper or change my boxers :(
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:14, archived)
# Scientists! Tch!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:14, archived)
# Our minds are focused on higher matters than your Earthly "clean underwear"
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:20, archived)
# and our Earthly 'sex'
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:21, archived)
# Damn it, Jim, I'm a physicist, not a biologist
You can't expect me to know everything!
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:25, archived)
# let me introduce you to a lovely girl I know
You do like green don't you...
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:34, archived)
# Hahahahaha!
I love the number of people with a demonstrable lack of understanding of relativity who are commenting on it.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:11, archived)
# Today is an entertaining day for the internet
Speaking as a genuine researcher in some aspects of relativistic physics, I find all this quite good fun.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:12, archived)
# it must be like watching cats trying to fight their reflection in a mirror!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:14, archived)
# Except that that's quite cute
The internet today is a bit like watching Big Brother contestants arguing over who has the highest IQ.

Someone at work just sent through an interesting comment -- if this result were true, the neutrinos from a supernova in 1987 would have been detected some four years before the light. They weren't, they were detected at roughly the same time.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:19, archived)
# see - that's so much more clever
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:20, archived)
# Which bit?
BB contestants arguing over the highest IQ? Or the comment about SN1987A? Because that was really smart. I wish I'd thought to do that.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:22, archived)
# the supernova bit
but I liked the BB analogy too.

You should buy some pants!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:26, archived)
# Pah
So the clever bit was the bit that wasn't mine :( I always knew I was a dunce

Sod pants. I'm gonna go commando from now on. At least I'll get my own seat on the train.

Also I'm off to the gym. Which will *guarantee* me my own seat on the train.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:29, archived)
# How do we know
the neutrinos would have been detected?
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:28, archived)
# we had neutrino detectors even back in the 80s
and we detected a surge in neutrinos around when the light from the supernova hit us

apparently in the paper today they point out that the neutrinos from sn1987a were a lot less energetic than the ones produced at cern. i doubt they draw any firm conclusions but i've not actually read the paper myself yet. i'll do that a bit later. it doesn't look like i'll get much coherent work done today.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:31, archived)
# Fair enough.
Presumably not all neutrinos break the light barrier (if indeed any do) otherwise somebody would have noticed before now.

It'll be fascinating to see if anything comes of this.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 12:21, archived)