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# Moggy's never drawn anything that crossed the b3ta line, even the stuff she didn't post
as this image testifies (very NSFW but note not linked or complained about, and was part of a series)
www.b3ta.com/board/6954415

So the question is has b3ta got to tone itself down because what people consider acceptable has changed, is the incredibly debatable and difficult definition of humour the key, or was it just internet bullying.
It'll never get solved, not on here anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 14:36, archived)
# You are a Mod
and therefore know I did not run to the teacher. I just said what I thought, which is what we do here, I believe. Then everyone makes up thier minds, for better or worse.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 14:45, archived)
# I never said you did
I'm just joining in with the conversation here
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 14:47, archived)
# I know
And I suppose it all comes down to perception of art. I try to draw pin-up style art; a lot of women find that offensive; many don't, and most don't care either way. I, personally, found some of Moggy's art disturbing. And I said so out loud; perhaps I shouldn't have.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 14:56, archived)
# there were plenty of others voicing similar opinions
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:03, archived)
# I just don't know why
he posted it. I expect there is a place for that kind of thing on the 'net, but experience would surely have told him it wasn't here.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:10, archived)
# SHE probably posted it because it's similar to the stuff JJ does
and there is clearly a massive fanbase for that judging by the picture JJ has just this second posted
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:17, archived)
# Toasty
Moggy is not a she. Not in a million years. Women just don't draw that way, even in Japan. His pictures were always about power, control, and innocence, usually corrupted.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:38, archived)
# Nah, they don't make men that mental
(I helped save b3ta! Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:40, archived)
# ^__^
this
(I helped save b3ta! atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 17:08, archived)
# What difference does Moggy's gender make?
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 19:14, archived)
# We (that is, the male users) all let it get away with murder because we think it's a cute, misguided japanese young lady, as opposed to a freakish male shutin with feminine hands and paedophilic tendancies.
There, I said it.
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 19:32, archived)
# Quite a lot n this context.
Anyone who starts conversations about sexual content with a lie about their own gender screams ALARM to me. But perhaps just me.

If I had a 15 year old daughter who was talking to a 40-year-old man pretending to be a 15 year old girl about sexual subjects, I'd rip his face off and ask questions later.

Maybe you wouldn't, although I seem to remember you getting pretty wound up on the way people talked to your daughter.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 22:14, archived)
# I thought her stuff technically very good, good use of colour although some of the proportions etc were downright bizarre.
However the subject matter often left a lot to be desired. But then is acceptability much like humour: entirely subjective? There was an excellent point made the other day about the normalisation of illegal fantasies, the more cartoon paedophilia that floats about on the net the less impact it has and therefore the more accepted it may become. But does this mean that all dA users want to go out and fuck wild animals? I would hope that most healthy, sane individuals can distinguish between images made for their own titilation and going outside to do the real thing.

None of ^this means I encourage the creation of fictional child porn images, I'm just saying what has been said over and over the last couple of days - the issue is a very tricky one. Either we stamp all over everything that could cause offense (including mongychops' kids tv stuff), or tread carefully and judge each case in isolation, the latter of which is always going to cause upset when different people's standards vary.
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:14, archived)
# I can't argue with a single word of that.
I believe there are studies that link porn and sex-crime, but it appears it is entirely down to individuals, not the content.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:25, archived)
# :)
See also - a few mentally ill kids playing violent computer games or watching action films, then going out to hurt or kill people resulting in a ban or age restrictions for everyone else.
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:29, archived)
# mongychops is a paedophile, just saying
(Concerned of Tunbridge Wells "my apron comes down and crushes the handle", Mon 15 Oct 2012, 18:04, archived)
# HappyToast is clearly also a paedo for having a link to that picture.
(I helped save b3ta! 2 Can Chunder Word to your mums, I came to prod bums, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 20:01, archived)
# /board is shit and full of dull spastics and you should all fuck off and kill yourselves you massive nonce cunts
(I helped save b3ta! BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 18:57, archived)