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# They're allowed to make pictures of whatever.
They're just not allowed to worship them.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:39, archived)
# most modern muslims might be a bit more lenient,
but I believe they're technically not even allowed to make them, you know, just in case.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:43, archived)
#
www.correctislamicfaith.com/picturesinislam.htm
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:44, archived)
# I'd like to point out
that I just used that picture, which is widely available, and added some text to it.

*peeks through curtains*
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:49, archived)
# modern muslim makes excuses for common modern practice,
no surprises there.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Islam
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:49, archived)
# Pretty much everything in that article after this sentence is redundant:
The Qur'an, the Islamic holy book, does not explicitly prohibit the depiction of human figures; it merely condemns idolatry (5:87–92, 21:51–52).

Everything else is down to interpretation. Modern interpretation is no less valid than ancient interpretation.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:55, archived)
# Wait a minute, I don't actually care.
It's all nonsense anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:57, archived)
# Hahaha
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:59, archived)
# Depends what the original text actually translates as
for whether it's down to interpretation or not.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:58, archived)
# That's the thing with the Qur'an, it IS the original text.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 17:00, archived)
# there is some doubt about that,
although I wouldn't want to publicly doubt it myself.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 17:04, archived)
# haha
i agree with you absolutely
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 17:46, archived)
# There are a lot of Hadith lower down,
which the Sunnis take quite seriously. Representative art has been prohibited by some of the stricter sects, and still is.

Modern interpretation isn't necessarily any more valid than ancient interpretation, either. Well I'm no Muslim scholar so I can't comment on the validity of either.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 17:00, archived)
# Hell, if you go for the common translations of Exodus 20:4
then Christians and Jews aren't allowed to draw pictures either.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"

I've no idea what the original Hebrew says and modern Bibles tend to ditch the "or any likeness part", but whether that means that this simply bans the production of graven images, or whether that's a modern Christian making excuses for common modern practice (as in the habit of wearing polycotton, for instance, or all those times you cook kid in its mothers' milk - I do that *all* the time) I genuinely have no idea. I actually suspect the former, but I like to think the latter so I can irritate Christians who mock the Muslims for not drawing pictures. I'm a very irritating kind of person.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 16:56, archived)
# Christians typically use the supercessionism excuse
to get out of anything the Old Testament says, but the argument about the gold cherubim in the Temple in Jerusalem is an interesting one. Apparently they don't count, because they're only gold plated and not solid gold. Thus sayeth the rabbis.

I don't know but I always found statues just a little bit creepy anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 17:03, archived)
#
creepy sexy

christians duck out of everything they don't like. it's a happy way of life.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 6 Dec 2012, 17:48, archived)