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# im confused
on the front page there is a link to broadband services or something like that...
whats so special about it?

does the uk not have broadband until recently?
(as i hit submit, this travels from along a dsl line to the b3ta server, all the way from texas... in the blink of an eye! woo! (yes, i love dsl and im not afraid to admit it)

oh, and how can you regular yourself here at b3ta if you are on dialup? would that be some sort of masochistic thing?
(sketcher, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:29, archived)
# ADSL / DSL / Cable etc
have been extortionatly priced up until March or so this year.

it used to be around £50 p/m with £150 set up fee etc, not what everyone can afford really.
(Dies Irae, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:34, archived)
# oh, thanks
i dont know how much my dsl line is costing, because its split 3 ways with my roommates and myself, and i dont bother to check since my check is all bundled with rent and electricity

but that must seriously suck for dsl to be so expensive over there

im sitting here thinking of why it could be so expensive and the only thing i can think of is the transatlantic cable... but i dont see that as being a very valid reason

why is it so expensive?


and why not get a satellite connection? they work almost anywhere and its always connected
(sketcher, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:39, archived)
# cos that costs
about £200 a month
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:41, archived)
# It's so expensive
i presume, because BT run a TOTAL monopoly over the nations phone exchanges / phone lines basically, if they don't drop the prices, nobody can, so therefore, i figure it'#s because they're greedy fuckers.
(Dies Irae, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:41, archived)
# oh, i see...
its all about the bling bling

they gotta get their fat paycheck and all that

yeah, i hate monopolies that overcharge for their services
*looks in the direction of microsoft(well, ok, so its not a monopoly, just industry standard... like potatoshop, and they can charge whatever the hell they want... cause i got xp for free (haha, no money for you!))*
(sketcher, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:45, archived)
# The only MS product
i've ever paid for is Dungeon Siege =)
(Dies Irae, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:46, archived)
# lol, not even that
i burned a copy off a friend the first day it was out

and for morrowind, i almost paid... but it was basically like free
i traded in all my console stuff, like my playstation and my nintindo 64 and games, and got a bunch of pc games
(sketcher, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:49, archived)
# it's only expesnive because the providers have kept it there...
...pure exploitation. Nothing to do with physical cost at all.

Anyway, it's getting cheap now.

Satellite is very expensive and only really an option for commercial use.

The big new transatlantic cable we had to put in just to carry all the extra b3ta traffic has put Europe in economic jeopardy though.
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:42, archived)
# a lot of the regulars are on ADSL or cable...
I've had cable for the best part of a year. Woo and yay.

Incidentally, the new b3ta server is actually in texas, so you're posts aren't going that far...
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:40, archived)
# ah
i realize now that stuff has been appearing faster... did they do it about 3ish months ago?

my sense of time is really bad... 5 months- 2 years, 3 days 9 hours... i dont know the difference


where's it at? austin?
(sketcher, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:42, archived)
# sounds about right...
March, I think?
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:43, archived)
# Cable is lovely
You get a really retro 80's looking modem
(I helped save b3ta! beefandcheese, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 12:08, archived)
# I wasn't sure
if i should get one or not, but now that you've said they look retro, I'm sold :p
(Dr_Never_Trust_A_Helper_Monkey, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 12:24, archived)
# Pffft.
You should see the charges in Ireland... clicky
Oh, and I am a b3ta regular on dialup.
(I helped save b3ta! helmetcream, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:40, archived)
# My mate
looks after their servers etc.
(Dies Irae, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:43, archived)
# If they're on the
nntp they need a good kicking.
(I helped save b3ta! helmetcream, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 12:17, archived)
# yeah
that keeps pissing my grandad off

but it's all cos there's fuck all people in the country, especially the west
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:43, archived)
# not sure on currancy rates
but isnt a euro about 75% of a dollar? and if so, thats really damn expensive
(sketcher, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 11:47, archived)
# The euro is worth
around the same as the dollar - So now it's more expensive!
(I helped save b3ta! helmetcream, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 12:16, archived)
# the bt deal isn't really that good
pipex is ultra cheap
(minoltion, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 12:03, archived)
# i'm on 56k
mainly because i live out in the sticks, and they can't run ADSL out here. They can't even run ISDN out her for fucks say.
But my halls next year will have a 10 mb/s connection to my room.
woo, and indeed, yay.
(theredqueen, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 12:32, archived)
# Broadband
I live in the UK and only paid £50 for installation and £25 a month for my cable connection from Telewest. Plus they are beta teting the 1mb connection just now and ill get that when they officially release it.
(Dolan, Sat 8 Jun 2002, 12:50, archived)