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# Are you from here?
Do you know? We give to other countries and screw ourselves countless times. DO you know it's easier to make it in this country if you are a NEW citizen rather than if you were born here?

EVERYONE in the world can come here and live, willingly, without threat of repraisal. Can I do that in GB? NO!

DO NOT talk about what you do not know about.
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 17:52, archived)
# Cubans?
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 17:53, archived)
# we should never have given you septics independence
*lights blue touchpaper and retreats quickly
(I helped save b3ta! Monkeyboy, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 17:55, archived)
# *snigger*
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 17:56, archived)
# Cock off...
we won it.

And we would again.
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:23, archived)
# Oh, you weren't the first ones to revolt.
The french had theirs about ten years before you.
(I helped save b3ta! charliedontsurf, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 17:56, archived)
# i agree.
the french are revolting.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 17:57, archived)
# not really talking about that
more that the government seems to set its policies by what's good for industry, rather than looking out for voters. "what's good for general motors is good for the usa", as someone once said. which has a kind of trickle-down logic to it - if industry is healthy then people have jobs and if they have jobs thy have money and if they have money they can feed themselves and provide themselves with money. it makes sense for a society for which money is the most important thing (and that's any capitalist society, not just america). however, like trickle-down economics it doesn't work because the people at the top are trying to keep hold of as much as they can. hence the loss of american jobs to cheaper, less protected latin americans/south-east asians. so the people at the top have the government on their side to screw the individual. which somehow doesn't seem fair.

also, if the credo of the states is 'anyone can achieve if they try hard enough' surely the logical outcome of that is that if you don't make it it's your fault. again, attacking the individual when so much of who we are comes from our social conditioning. i would not be the same person sat her on a computer talking to you had i gone to a different school - not just a better or a worse school, but a different one, with different people and different teachers. etc etc.

i'm actually boring myself with this, you know. not sure what you're on about with the 'everyone in the world can come ehre... without threat of reprisal' - could you clarify that please? as far as i was aware, you need some kind of visa.
(martian, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 17:59, archived)
# well said.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:02, archived)
# by god it's tedious though.
(martian, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:03, archived)
# truth.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:04, archived)
# "the truth is boring"
sounds like a good philosophy.
(martian, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:05, archived)
# Oh no, not really..
what would happen if I came to GB just to visit and ended up staying?

I would be deported...

That does not happen here, because of what is written on the base of the Statue of Liberty:
"Give us your poor, your hungry, tired masses, yearning to breathe free."

WHAT AM I ON ABOUT?
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:03, archived)
# sorry, but you're wrong.
you do get thrown out from the us if you overstay your visa. ask justhere.
(martian, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:05, archived)
# good question.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:05, archived)
# in that case, what are
we to make of those militias of texans parading along the mexican border preventing immigrants entering the USA, then?

tell you what - i'll apply for US citizenship tommorow without a job or anywhere to go, and see how far i get. i'll let you all know how far i get.
(I helped save b3ta! 100% of Gibbon, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:09, archived)
# If you lived here
You would know what that is about.

And it is MUCH easier for an Illegal to disappear and live here than in GB.

You English are so smug sometimes.
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:16, archived)
# does that have anything to do with america
being about 60 times bigger than the uk? and that the communication between states is sometimes less than full?
(martian, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:18, archived)
# i am sooooooooooooooo not going to repond to that.
(I helped save b3ta! 100% of Gibbon, Tue 22 Jul 2003, 18:20, archived)