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# Whatever
you do, don't force the issue here. Time is your friend. Let things settle. Are you really so desperate? Dare you force things to the point of being irreperable? Take your time. Eventually, she will see if you are subtle.

Edit/ perhaps you shouldn't listen to me. I have a bad tendancy to be very mechanistic. A person does x because Y and Z applies. etc.
(, Sat 21 Aug 2004, 2:29, archived)
# did you mean suitable?
or was that a subtle subtext?
(, Sat 21 Aug 2004, 2:34, archived)
# I mean
Subtle. Pushing things won't help I think.
(, Sat 21 Aug 2004, 2:35, archived)
# but
it's the only pleasure I have left in life
(, Sat 21 Aug 2004, 2:51, archived)
# i was subtle for a while
but in recent months, we've become uttely open to each other, no secrets, no lies, we've deiscussed at length how we feel about each other, and way before that i learned to recognise when she's being at all untruthful, and to the best of my knowledge, she spoke every word as she meant it.
(, Sat 21 Aug 2004, 2:36, archived)
# No secrets
no lies.
Sounds to me like you are only a short step away.
(, Sat 21 Aug 2004, 2:38, archived)
# nope,
a short step backwards, she cares for me like a brother, but couldnt do anything for the same reason.
(, Sat 21 Aug 2004, 2:41, archived)