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# here here.
democracy is the winner.

i suggest reading the new edition of national geographical (on news stands from today) which has a nice article on democracy in it.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Wed 3 Nov 2004, 13:12, archived)
# yes democracy would be a nice thing
but we all live in an oligarchy, which is NOT the same thing
(negative armadillo There never was much hope..just a fool's hope., Wed 3 Nov 2004, 13:19, archived)
# Very true. 'American Democracy' is a bit of an oxymoron.


www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4044
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Wed 3 Nov 2004, 13:31, archived)
# ha top link
v. good
(negative armadillo There never was much hope..just a fool's hope., Wed 3 Nov 2004, 13:35, archived)
# 1984
genius. Another George. and oddly, a Blair too.
(I helped save b3ta! brianftang www.brianftang.co.uk, Wed 3 Nov 2004, 15:58, archived)