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# call me cynical but
Just watch that national ID card legislation sail through. Only 15% of the country supported the government after the last election, this will ensure total fealty to a smarmy Blair and whatever he wants to do. Ken Livingstone and the opposition parties will now have no grounds to reject ID card legislation, especially with the Olympics coming to London in 2012.

The police state measures they'll get out of this will be overlayed onto all forms of transport. In fact, you won't be able to travel without the ID card.


MI5 have been caught involved in IRA bomings multiple times over.

EDIT: excellent post WIl!
(Betty Bo Bibster, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:24, archived)
# Cynical!

*points*


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:26, archived)
# you are cynical
but i rather fear you're also correct
(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:26, archived)
# ^this
it occurred to me too. 'Cos obviously ID cards prevented the Madrid bombs....
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:28, archived)
# true
and then the terrorists will have won

(I helped save b3ta! Vultan the real one I threw my little yellow shoe, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:28, archived)
# everyone wins - except us
the extremists need the politicos for their cause and the politicos need the extremists to justify their police state
(Betty Bo Bibster, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:31, archived)
# do I get cake

(I helped save b3ta! Vultan the real one I threw my little yellow shoe, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:32, archived)
# yep, but no cherry
if Al Qu'da didn't exitst they would need to invent it


mmm


now theres a thought
(Betty Bo Bibster, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:36, archived)
# Careful
There's cynicism, then there's paranoia
(I helped save b3ta! Frogoz, Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:49, archived)
# Imaginary terrorists
do not blow up trains and kill people.
I accept the point that al-Qaeda, as a single organisation with a central command structure, does not exost. But a loose network of people calling themselves 'al-Qaeda' does exist and has been responsible fo atrocities.
You do seem a bit of a paranoid conspiracy nut, if you don't mind me saying so. And even if you do.
(I helped save b3ta! Mr. Tea 'ulmmm'/'mmneurgh', Thu 7 Jul 2005, 16:52, archived)