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# oh dear
looks like bad news:
Airliner crashes in Queens
(I helped save b3ta! AndyK, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 8:54, archived)
# arse
An American Airlines flight on its way to John F Kennedy airport has crashed in New York. At least four buildings in the Rockaway Beach area of the city's borough of Queens are on fire. It is not known why the aircraft crashed or how many people were on board, or in the buildings now ablaze. New York Mayor Rudolph Guiliani is on his way to the crash site and has called a level one alert. There is no indication at the moment that the crash is anything other than an accident. The weather was crystal clear when the plane - thought to be a Boeing 767 - went down. All three airports serving New York - JFK, Newark and La Guardia - are now closed. The Dow index dropped 200 points on hearing the news.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 8:58, archived)
# Radio 4
saying no idea whether accident or terrorism.

oh and says that the plane was heading OUT of NYC and not IN. Therefore full tank of fuel.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:01, archived)
# apparently it was
engine failure on take off. So looks like it may be a horrid coincidence.
(I helped save b3ta! AndyK, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:05, archived)
# bbc news fucked - sky news ok
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home/
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:11, archived)
# or try
http://robots.cnn.com/
(I helped save b3ta! AndyK, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:12, archived)
# they've got news gathering robots at cnn?
cool.

wonder if we can set up robots.b3ta.com ?
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:13, archived)
# little robots that
do photoshops on demand?
(I helped save b3ta! AndyK, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:16, archived)
# oh yes
*rubs hands with glee"
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:18, archived)
# right
I know what to get you for christmas then.
(I helped save b3ta! AndyK, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:23, archived)
# i find this rather worrying...
Fighters have been flying over the city's skies 24 hours a day since September 11. Crews have been told they must be prepared to shoot down any hijacked civilian aircraft if ordered to do so.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:17, archived)
# There's no way the US will admit it if it was
It would send the nation into panic - and further shit the markets. Of course, if it is a coincidence the Taliban will be saying it was Allah intervening. War stinks.
(milk_explosion, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:33, archived)
# A bit of one engine fell off
before it hit the ground - therefore two crash sites. How can that be an accident?
(I helped save b3ta! Wifey, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:38, archived)
# engine blows up... bit falls off ... two crash sites
could easily be an accident.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 9:46, archived)
# that is what
I thought.
(Esteban, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 10:01, archived)
# Just tried my luck
with the BBC website, and it delivered the 30th October news page! Must be out of stock of the recent stuff.
(I helped save b3ta! macca, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 10:11, archived)
# Sky works
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home/0,,,00.html
(I helped save b3ta! Wifey, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 10:21, archived)
# fuel tank
except pilot jettisoned fuel.
(chris, Mon 12 Nov 2001, 20:14, archived)