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# Has everyone gone to watch the Hitcher?
I'm the only person on m3ss3nger!
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:17, archived)
# i'm still here
cos i'm doing my coursework and scary things scare me
(I helped save b3ta! the triple legendary unicorn, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:18, archived)
# nice profile...
..you appear to take a cute but impractical physical form.
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:20, archived)
# well, i am mythical
..sort of :)

i'm going to have to get a dirty great piercing in my back before the next b3ta meet, or none of you will recognise me...
(I helped save b3ta! the triple legendary unicorn, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:29, archived)
# im listening to all the music recommendations
got some tom waits, listening to it now - his voice is scary :)
mouse in mars is pretty cool.
I like stereo total.

ground zero, after discovering that there are two ground zeros, one being some crappy rap group sounds good
im now getting some eric dolphy, henry cow, charles mingus, ornette coleman,cecil taylor and finally the west cost pop art experimental band

the allmusic guide really is a fantastic resource !!
(I helped save b3ta! DaWolfey, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:23, archived)
# btw chaotic
if your into frank zappa have you ever looked into captain beefheart? very cool
also, wildman fischer - totally nuts

and syd barretts solo stuff
(I helped save b3ta! DaWolfey, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:29, archived)
# load of
zappa and beefheart albums for £5 in fopp in notts atm :D
(bobulatorm, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:35, archived)
# Cool... will check fopp in Edinburgh
I have almost all of Zappa, but there are some gaps in my beefheart.
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:40, archived)
# The Captain?
of course...

Trout Mask Replica is one of the more difficult works of genius going! (produced, of course, by Zappa)

THe Wildman Fischer stuff is just mental.
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:36, archived)
# i find trout mask replica
utterly impenetrable.
it was the very first album i had that was totally off the wall like that.
i remember thinking "this is shit, theres no songs" and putting it away, bear in mind the beefheart id heard was doc at the radar station and ice cream for crow - slightly odd albums but still pretty normal compared. That was a few years ago and ive not really thought about it since...
i think its time to dig it out again !!!

*edit* wildman fischers "im a truck" i find quite moving...
*edit 2* wow that was a terrible pun
(I helped save b3ta! DaWolfey, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:44, archived)
# go back to Trout Mask...
difficult but worth it. If you can handle Japanese turntablists, I reckon you'll be Ok with it.
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:49, archived)
# I couldn't argue with any of those choices!
You have some serious free jazz there... don't overdose! I'm not a huge jazz fan, but you can't knock Mingus, Coleman, Taylor and Dolphy. I have a gorgeous CD box set of the complete Atlantic recordings of Ornette Coleman - fantastic, if heavy going in places.

Tom Waits is awesome, but he has gone from these slightly twisted ballads in the early 70's to some quite ear-crunching stuff these days. Check out some stuff from the albums Frank's Wild Years, Bone Machine, Blue Valentine, The Black Rider Swordfishtrombones and Rain Dogs(for a fair historical survey!

From the stuff you're talking about, I think you might like some of the more oddball stuff - Black Rider, Bone Machine, Mule Variations, maybe Swordfishtrombones.
(I helped save b3ta! chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Sun 28 Apr 2002, 21:33, archived)