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# Algae may have the word lost on me in the moment, so ta :)
but human incursion and effect on the natural world is quite frankly undeniable, even putting aside any argument concerning global warming. So for the majority of endangered wildlife our effect on it's natural environment is almost chiefly the cause of why it is endangered, including the fluffy Panda. Just because the female is only fertile for about four days a year wouldn't really be a problem if there wasn't such an element as the rapid industrial growth and population of China.

The fact the world has started to take conservation seriously, even with such 'lost causes' shows some optimistic maturity, though I reckon
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:10, archived)
# ^this
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:12, archived)
# Which world is that?
the world i'm in certain doesn't seem to be taking it seriously.
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:14, archived)
# ^This^
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:16, archived)
# Quite a lot of species have died out in the past,
a number of those extinctions happening before there were any humans. The majority of them, I believe. Some species are just not very good at being alive, e.g. irish elk.
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:21, archived)
# Doesn't hurt to try and preserve what's left though, does it?
The Regional Red List report of critical and extinct species is ever grim reading by every year, there is simply nothing natural about most extinctions these days; it's down to us as humans
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:28, archived)
# That you know of.
For all you know the species we're keeping alive are suppressing the emergence of others that may later become the dominant ones. And no, most extinctions are not down to mankind. Most extinctions are on micro-organisms. Where do they come in to your plan or is it out of sight out of mind for you? And equally how can you tell me that the next dominant species' on earth will evolve from single-celled organisms?
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:36, archived)
# the point is we should do our best to minimise our impact on the environment
before gaia bites us in the ass*


*or donkey, etc
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:45, archived)
# My partner really would get upset if Gaia did that
and I doubt that'd end well for Gaia.
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:52, archived)
# Emm
micro-organisms. Where do they come in to your plan or is it out of sight out of mind for you? Entirely not, but out of what i'm qualified to apparently debate about

I'm a graphic designer, I make conservation shit loads of money from restoring old photographs which we sell online and to the BBC and National Geographic, and looking after our library of scientific knowldege, which it would be my pleasure to show you around if you're ever near London Zoo

We got a £1000 for this hour or two's worth of shopping from a slide, from National Geographic:



And that's that, cool little chat though :)
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:56, archived)
# I may just take you up on that offer
and thanks, it's always fun to discuss these things. Sounds like an interesting job too.
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 22:01, archived)
# Last b3tan who did ended up with a Meerkat on her head
:)
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 22:07, archived)
# Well crap, now my sense of cute is taking over...
*Hopes nobody taxes him on the subject in case he caves to fluff*
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 22:11, archived)
# Mankind's impact on the world is at best transitory
We weren't the first species on this rock and we sure as hell won't be the last. And no, that's far from being the only genetic flaw with the Panda. Besides, you're totally ignoring the fact it's the deaths of existing species that allows new ones to thrive.
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:29, archived)
# I bet our species is among the last, actually.
I bet you one pound, plus interest, payable at the death of the sun.
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:46, archived)
# You're on!
*Waits expectantly for the species to die out*
(, Tue 4 Dec 2007, 21:55, archived)