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# Huh.
Really?
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:24, archived)
# yup
celeb chefs, one of whom is taken seriously, are doing a series on different farming methods, and ramsay has been rearing and killing his own meat on three series of his latest show.

basically all pushing towards local, free range, and humane killing.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:26, archived)
# Didn't Ramsay
make his kids become friends with the animals first? That's just mean.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:27, archived)
# But if he gets them used to killing the animals,
then they will be able to carry on rearing and killing their own, in humane ways.
They'd be brought up with it.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:29, archived)
# I dunno.
If I was his kid, I'd just be fucked up from that shit. I'd love the animals too much.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:30, archived)
# At first.
I guess we should all accept that we have different views.
One of my best friend is vegetarian, as is the girl I love :)
I know a guy up the road who only eats brown rice and is a pagan, none of it changes a person's personality any more than eating meat does.

Lets just agree to disagree?
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:34, archived)
# This.
FTW. :D
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:35, archived)
# no
he encouraged them to help rear them, in order to teach them where their meat comes from. there's anecdotes where inner city kids have been asked where meat comes from and have answered tesco's, that's more of a worry than three under 12s raising their dinner
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:30, archived)
# Oh, okay.
But still, if I was them, I don't think I'd be able to do it.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:33, archived)
# how long have you been veggie?
just out of interest.

(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:35, archived)
# About a year.
I didn't like meat, so very very rarely ate it. FInally I just stopped.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:43, archived)
# you're a bit like one of my mates
she became a veggie at about the same age, at one point i had to talk her out of buying a badge(button) saying "i don't eat meat" as she didn't realise the amount of extra female attention she'd get in the clubs she frequented.

gotta say i prefer veggies who choose it themselves rather than those who have it forced on them by their parents, the latter never seem to be all there in my experience
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:47, archived)
# If you were them
you'd not have much choice :)
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:36, archived)
# True.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:45, archived)
# It appalls me that people do not know what they are eating.
I do not eat crated veal or Fois Gras because I personally would not be willing to force feed a goose or keep a calf in a box, but the sort of person who bleats about shooting a rabbit, but eats factory farmed chickens pisses me off.

I had a woman run in front of me when I was about to shoot a partridge once. When I questioned her about the fact that she ate chicken she said 'yes, but I don't kill them myself'.

Stupid cow.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:28, archived)
# Oh my god!
Are you serious? That's fucked up.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:29, archived)
# please tell me you shot the bitch
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:31, archived)
# Hahahah
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:32, archived)
# Not killing them yourself
kind of makes it worse.

When mum got the chicken for christmas dinner, she was there when it was killed. She's also shot her own pheasants, and my stepbrother gets the rabbit.

The chicken was HUGE.
It was turky-sized! AND we had pheasant & bacon too!
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:32, archived)
# i dunno
i'd happily eat a pheasant, grouse or other fowl if i'd shot it, even deer (never been hunting, but enjoyed clay shooting enough to be willing to give it a shot and know i'd have a chance of gaining a meal from it)
but with pigs, cows and sheep i'd rather leave it to the experts.

as for rabbits, i've only recently decided i wanted to try it, i had a pet rabbit as a child and couldn't imagine ever eating rabbit. don't think i'm quite ready to kill and eat my own bunny
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:38, archived)
# It's lovely stuff.
Absolutely fantastic in a casserole.
(, Wed 16 Jan 2008, 0:49, archived)