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# Yeah...
but where did the b3tards steal their source images from?

It's a different situation when a completely original work is taken and used for commercial gain without permission, but most of the pictures in the sun were photoshops of stock images/stuff found on the net.

If you don't own the original picture you are shopping, then it's a bit hypocritical to accuse the Sun of stealing your work.

Did you ask the Sun if you could use their logo for your picture there?
(, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:01, archived)
# everyone becomes a websheriff
when it suits them :D
(, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:03, archived)
# It's true
we all get upset when Prince says we can't use his image in our photoshops, but get all angry when somebody else uses our pictures.
(, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:12, archived)
# I'm not sure if those are the same people
'tis a big community.

But you're right, of course
(, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:22, archived)
# You have a point
However, when commercial usage comes into it, then the issue gets pretty muddy.
As far as I see, in this case no-one from B3TA set out to make financial gain from their images.
But The Sun is maximising its profit by using free images.

The Sun's ratecard for a full colour page advert is over £55,000.
The paper rakes in over £1.7 Million in cover price on a Saturday.
Obviously, they buy in editorial images and pay their journalists.
But they are getting in editorial on the cheap AND they claim copyright on the images on their website.
It's something that can't just be ignored.
(, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 16:18, archived)
# when I create an image for commercial use,
I pay for all the photography used which means the profit is very little.
When I'm doing something for my blog or b3ta then I adopt the traditional b3tan model :-)
(, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 16:20, archived)