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# Iv'e made a water mark....
to use on our images to stop the sun from stealing from us!

just re-size to your liking!

(Madlyinsane, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:21, archived)
# may want to use a big brush instead of fill
it leaves a little line :/

Iv'e
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:23, archived)
# yyyeeaahhh or you could try a more subtle watermark that includes your website (if you have one) and get some free advertising?
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:23, archived)
# or Julie Moult is an idiot?
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:24, archived)
# they actually pay quite well when you contact them about it.
queen working at McDonalds: starkandy
who wants a full tank of petrol: BubaMan
Lord of the onion ring: Mr MacTarpaulin-Smythe
Jonathan ross tramp: The Great Architect
Apple ican phones: The Dirty Weeker
Dragons Den golf sale: funkenstein

should contact the sun
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:25, archived)
# They haven't bought any of mine yet, the buggers
Maybe I need to include topical wit instead of stupid crap.
(I helped save b3ta! Tribs 🦇 ↓ dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥʇ ↓🦇, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:34, archived)
# yea..same here, wankers! :)
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:35, archived)
# I emailed my contact there yesterday
they'll pick it up tomorrow and I'll no doubt get a response fairly quickly. Thanks for the list of other people affected - it is 'useful'
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:42, archived)
# there's maybe another 2 b3tans missing from the list..
[edit]

Top Gear: Puromycin
Paddington Train: monstrinho do biscoito
Tesco Shampoo: amoebaboy
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:45, archived)
# Off of?
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:25, archived)
# iv'e tooken a pictur off of beeter dotcom
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:26, archived)
# that's right, isn't it?
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:30, archived)
# it's right because people use it
but some would say the "of" is redundant and disrupts the flow of the sentence.
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:31, archived)
# actually
"from" would be more correct

"taken off b3ta.com without permission" would be even better, although that raises the issues of the internet being public domain.

in fairness, from the articles i've seen posted on here they always reference b3ta, and
often reference the posters, so the problem's not the same as it was with emap/bauer since they went out of their way to remove the tags etc.


EDIT: wait a minute, what the fuck am i doing playing devil's advocate to the scum??? fuck em up!!!!
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:34, archived)
# nothing is more or less correct
actually I would prefer "right offa".

HOOO-WEE THESE VARMINS COME TOOK OUR PICTURES RIGHT OFFA OUR WEBSITE.
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:37, archived)
# but when getty images started making the same complaints we do
we all bricked ourselves
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:40, archived)
# if we followed that rule
We'd be no better than the Americans

There are conventions in written English which are followed for a reason by a, sadly, diminishing minority. In a matter such as this, it is more effective to use proper English than colloquial English.


Now get the fuck offa my land you damn yankeee varmint
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:41, archived)
# THEM'S FIGHTIN WORDS
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:44, archived)
# It's true that it is.
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:32, archived)
# it should be 'stolen from b3ta.com'
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:33, archived)
# ah!
i'm from plymouth though, so we can use whatever grammar or made up words we like, and people won't question it. :)
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:19, archived)
# too much
!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! Neon Blue Ah ha ha haa! I feel positively capital!, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:29, archived)
# IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO SHOUT ABOUT!!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:29, archived)
# Here's one
where you can fill in your site/name if you want

(Madlyinsane, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:31, archived)
# IV''''''''''''''''''''''''''E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! MrPineapple .co.uk - TSHIRTS FOR SALE. I GIVE YOU GOOD PRICE., Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:36, archived)
# 8D
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:37, archived)
# you write like you are from the Westcountry
nothing wrong with that - all the best people come from there
(I helped save b3ta! its_hatorah_bitch is b3ta the devil you know on, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:37, archived)
# Iv'e been a victim of this*
*may not be true
(I helped save b3ta! xihpete A neutrino walks straight through a bar, with v>c., Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:38, archived)
# meh
it's like complaining that a radio station played your bootleg remix.
(I helped save b3ta! Bloop Fri 16 Jul, 22:10, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:47, archived)
# Assuming you haven't used you own sources.
And I think the main concern was that someone else was getting money and prizes for sending in those bootlegs. Even DJs gots to gets paid.
(I helped save b3ta! Kamikaze Stoat £4.09, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:49, archived)
# i understand the plagiarism bit,
but that was the zoo or nuts thing, not this as far as I can tell.
(I helped save b3ta! Bloop Fri 16 Jul, 22:10, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:54, archived)
# I am offended by your cropping

I really am
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 14:50, archived)
# upsets me too
*grits teeth"
(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 31 Aug 2008, 16:23, archived)
# Yeah...
but where did the b3tards steal their source images from?

It's a different situation when a completely original work is taken and used for commercial gain without permission, but most of the pictures in the sun were photoshops of stock images/stuff found on the net.

If you don't own the original picture you are shopping, then it's a bit hypocritical to accuse the Sun of stealing your work.

Did you ask the Sun if you could use their logo for your picture there?
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:01, archived)
# everyone becomes a websheriff
when it suits them :D
(I helped save b3ta! Bloop Fri 16 Jul, 22:10, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:03, archived)
# It's true
we all get upset when Prince says we can't use his image in our photoshops, but get all angry when somebody else uses our pictures.
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:12, archived)
# I'm not sure if those are the same people
'tis a big community.

But you're right, of course
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 15:22, archived)
# You have a point
However, when commercial usage comes into it, then the issue gets pretty muddy.
As far as I see, in this case no-one from B3TA set out to make financial gain from their images.
But The Sun is maximising its profit by using free images.

The Sun's ratecard for a full colour page advert is over £55,000.
The paper rakes in over £1.7 Million in cover price on a Saturday.
Obviously, they buy in editorial images and pay their journalists.
But they are getting in editorial on the cheap AND they claim copyright on the images on their website.
It's something that can't just be ignored.
(I helped save b3ta! beaubodor blogless, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 16:18, archived)
# when I create an image for commercial use,
I pay for all the photography used which means the profit is very little.
When I'm doing something for my blog or b3ta then I adopt the traditional b3tan model :-)
(I helped save b3ta! beaubodor blogless, Sun 31 Aug 2008, 16:20, archived)