
I don't see what difficulty this distinction is trying to overcome.
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:11,
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So, oscillations of air particles vs hearing music.
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:14,
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I might as well say that when we hear soft and gentle sounds, those aren't really noises. Or that when we detect a noise visually as a sound wave on a screen, that's not really a noise, or that noises that happen in Switzerland don't count because it's a quiet sort of place.
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:18,
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But there is a distinction between a physical description of what's happening and the mental perception of it.
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:21,
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