I've been sitting in the library since 4 o'clock reading about legal philosophy
this is child's play compared to sentences like: "common official practice cannot constitute a legal reason for accepting and treating as binding the rule of recognition itself, because the rule of recognition is an ultimate legal rule to which questions regarding what make it legally valid, or questions regarding what further legal reasons there are for accepting it, do not apply"
(Tom OBedlamI have control of a tank,
Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:08,
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(mictoboyshitting in your cunt since,
Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:05,
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sure but they would have their own criteria for sensory perception
(Tom OBedlamI have control of a tank,
Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:08,
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I think that was my point
we can subjectify 'sound' as being the oscillation of our ear drums - but it's more complex than that. If sound was subjective in this way then it would not exist - sound waves (the oscillation of air molecules) is an ambient part of our environment and the way we recieve this informative is not sound itself - but our interpretation of sound.
Therefore insects and such without ears will recieve this information in a different way to humans - but that does not exclude the fact that sound exists regardless of whether it is being recieved or not in the same way that if you don't own a radio does that mean Radio Waves aren't all about us?
(maidenis filmed before a live studio audience,
Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:21,
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Why classify the unpercieved ones as "not noises"?
I might as well say that when we hear soft and gentle sounds, those aren't really noises. Or that when we detect a noise visually as a sound wave on a screen, that's not really a noise, or that noises that happen in Switzerland don't count because it's a quiet sort of place.
(_Felix's school of dance and occult sciences,
Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:18,
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To be honest, I'd happily use the word 'sound' or 'noise' to describe either.
But there is a distinction between a physical description of what's happening and the mental perception of it.