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# It would have looked better for them if they'd investigated appropriately without needing videos to be released by the media.
I agree, it's the Policeman and not the Police at fault, although it also looks fairly bad for the Policemen who stood and watched an unprovoked assault.
If the officer is dealt with appropriately, and preferably criminally, the Police will look a lot better for it.
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:33, archived)
# apparently the police involved haven't come forward yet
which is inexcusable to say the least. Kick them out, make it clear that such action won't be tolerated. Then the police force is improved and the public is reassured.

/Jeremy Kyle blog
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:41, archived)
# According to a 'news just in' thing on channel 4 news,
the bloke who beat him with a baton and pushed him over has now come forward, which is nice of him.
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:44, archived)
# i've not seen the beating with a baton bit - was it filmed?
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:46, archived)
# More or less caught by a channel 4 camera.
Fairly poor picture with people in the way, but it looks fairly convincing to me.
Here it is www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/tomlinson+death+missing+moment/3076487
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:50, archived)
#
beating with a baton gave him a small smack on the leg with a baton
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:51, archived)
# Which is an acceptable thing to do to people walking away from you.
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:52, archived)
# but it was kind of my point,
i think the officer in question should be dealt with appropriately - but i'm fairly sure if i pushed someone over in a pub the worst that i'd get is a warning. he didn't actually kill the guy let's remember...
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:55, archived)
# point is he's meant to keep a level head even after a days people shouting abuse at him and pushing him back
he didn't act fairly, he needs taking aside and making an example of to return balance to the force :D
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:57, archived)
# speak sense you do


(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 20:02, archived)
# that would be an ideal outcome(except for the guys family)....
...but he'll probably just be moved to "backroom duties"...and a caution.If high ranking police are only intent on cover-ups,wrongful imprisonment,manipulating crime figures etc.then there's little any "good"cops can do except toe the line.Cops just seem intent on enforcing a stranglehold on ordinary folk.Laws come into force and no one even knows how.Lots of bad intent in the powers that be:(
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:57, archived)
# We'll have to wait and see what happens.
Also, laws are made by politicians, the Police just enforce them. I think it's the politicians you want for manipulating crime figures, too.
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 19:59, archived)
# ^this^
it's a shit job and you get the blame for other people making up the stats. If it was me I'd go crazy ape with a baton in an instant
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 20:01, archived)
# you'll probably find that's where he came from
due to the numbers of rioters (and peaceful protestors) every copper had to step up that day and maybe he wasn't fully trained.
(, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 20:01, archived)