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# Science is a fickle beast at times
Science can be adapted and bastardised to a personal viewpoint to show how the US Government was behind 9/11

However Science cannot be trusted in any form to logically explain Chemtrails.

That fickle, fickle science...
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 15:45, archived)
# I told you, i am converted!
Just because there are no photos of chemtrails taken before 1995, I am sure that they were actually crisscrossing the sky for decades, but no one thought to photograph them. Water crystals evaporate in less than a minute, chemtrails stay up and spread out over the sky for hours, leaving a milky haze, but i do not rely on my vision, i run to science to tell me nothing is wrong with this comparison, my father is a scientist, he touches me in all the bad places, but i like it.
(Catnipppp, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 15:51, archived)
# I wonder when this was taken.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/B-17_Flying_Fortress.jpg
Also, I'm pretty sure I've seen clouds (made of water vapour) stay in the sky for longer than a minute. Maybe I was mistaken.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 15:54, archived)
# Haha spot on
And add this nail to the coffin:

"The first published reports of contrails appeared during and shortly after World War I when aircraft were finally able to reach the altitudes required for contrail formation. An early example of contrail formation was observed during the flights of the pilot Zeno Diemer in 1919, when he reached altitudes as high as 30,500 ft above Munich, Germany. "
(I helped save b3ta! Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:00, archived)
# jesus christ, i will have to remove my brain to cope with you guys
You don't know the difference between contrails and chemtrails? one disappears in a minute because it is frozen ice crystals, the other stays in sky for hours, and is a concoction of all sorts of chemicals and crap. But you never investigate it, you just sit and mastubate each other and giggle.
(Catnipppp, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:30, archived)
# no, the time it takes a contrail to disappear depends on the humidity of the air
it doesn't always disappear quickly.
A simple piece of investigation will tell you this
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:41, archived)
# I think there's some truth in the 1995 thing
something to do with the introduction of a new kind of engine, like turbofans (randomly picked jargon word, may not in fact be turbofans).
Having said that, I remember seeing vapour trails a lot (particularly noticeable on summer days in a clear blue sky) when I was small, and I wasn't small in 1995.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:01, archived)
# Oh I'm sure that was photoshopped or something
after all, it doesn't fit with his theory.
(I helped save b3ta! chenobble rocking his explorer beard on, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:02, archived)
# jackoff
of course if is a contrail, it is ice crystals, it disappears because it only water vapor, but you are too ignorant to see the diff, get it?
(Catnipppp, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:33, archived)
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(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 15:56, archived)
# How exactly
do water crystals evaporate so quickly at sub zero temperatures?
(I helped save b3ta! Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 15:56, archived)
# You're actually getting more incomprehensible over time.
'rely on my vision' = rely on my own prejudices and paranoia to draw conclusions on complex atmospheric phenomena?

'Water crystals evaporate in less than a minute' really? Now I'm pretty sure there are large number of atmospheric factors that may effect the length of time a contrail hangs about and the way it disperses, but i do not rely on my reasonable understanding of science, i run to PrisonPlanet to tell me everything is wrong with this comparison because I'm a paranoid fruitloop who wouldn't understand what the word 'evidence' meant if it was foceably downloaded into his brain by sinister government agents.
(I helped save b3ta! chenobble rocking his explorer beard on, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:00, archived)
# Come on David.
You need a bit more objection here.

Water crystals and water vapour do not evaporate in minutes. Have a look at the clouds.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:03, archived)
# are we talking about contrails or clouds?
contrails disappear in less than a minute, even in seconds, just like your breath on a cold day.
(Catnipppp, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:38, archived)
# no they don't.
It depends upon the atmospheric conditions.
Contrails are the exhaust from the jet engine. Science 101 will tell you that this is water vapour leaving the engine which, at a few hundred feet behind the initial emission condenses into ice crystals and sits there like a cloud. Just like clouds if they are in a clear sky the sun will quickly burn them off. When it is cloudy you don't see them and they water vapour does not condense at lower altitudes and so you don't see them below the cloud layer. I'm a layman and all of this is perfectly understandable science.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:59, archived)