
1) terrorism, rather than being a significant threat to our democracy and way of life is a convenient was to make being a lazy politician in power easy
2) ID cards and databases are a significant threat to our democracy and way of life
3) the government can not be trusted with our details, this is equally true of the DNA databse which is, in theory, a good idea but would be stuffed up in practice.
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2) ID cards and databases are a significant threat to our democracy and way of life
3) the government can not be trusted with our details, this is equally true of the DNA databse which is, in theory, a good idea but would be stuffed up in practice.

lets have an image challenge and bring the system down.
It may not work!
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It may not work!

if the Home Office puts your details in wrong (a typo, for example, or a bit of dodgy OCR), then...er...you're responsible
"umm...it says you're called Mr Thmopson"
"no, I'm Mr Thompson"
"hmm...it doesn't match. I'll have to detain you"
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"umm...it says you're called Mr Thmopson"
"no, I'm Mr Thompson"
"hmm...it doesn't match. I'll have to detain you"

No I'm mr Thmopson . Mr Thompson owes you £50,000. go get that guy.
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I have loads of fun with this - my first name isn't my given name; my dad wanted to name me after his dad, my mother didn't, so my first name is my granddad's name but I never use it, except on forms... so:
"what's your name Sir...?"
"well - it could be one of two things"
"No - it couldn't..."
all that aside - I might not be fundamentally opposed to some sort of citizenship register, they already have so many of our details anyway a card's not going to make fuck all difference, but the reasons they give for needing it are the same tenuous ones they give for everything else there's a sinister ulterior motive for (*cough* Iraq *cough*) and I think it's due in no small part to having shoddy hopeless lazy spineless Home Secretaries... who let the police (who think everyone is a potential criminal) get away with fucking murder.
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"what's your name Sir...?"
"well - it could be one of two things"
"No - it couldn't..."
all that aside - I might not be fundamentally opposed to some sort of citizenship register, they already have so many of our details anyway a card's not going to make fuck all difference, but the reasons they give for needing it are the same tenuous ones they give for everything else there's a sinister ulterior motive for (*cough* Iraq *cough*) and I think it's due in no small part to having shoddy hopeless lazy spineless Home Secretaries... who let the police (who think everyone is a potential criminal) get away with fucking murder.