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# there is some debate over whether 'pikey' is an unacceptable racial slur
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:22, archived)
# unacceptable to whom?
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:24, archived)
# Pikeys
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:25, archived)
# aha - I don't know
I'm sitting on the fence
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:26, archived)
# go on...
'fes up...

you're trying not to say "pikeys", aren't you ;)
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:28, archived)
# Scum.
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:26, archived)
# I read that in the Guardian
the lady concerned wouldn't answer my comment when I pointed out that Frank Gallagher describes the whole cast of Shameless as pikeys in the opening credits of every episode, yet she only got it together to write an article when Hammond implied that he might be one in Top Gear...but then the Guardian love to knock Top Gear and anyone that watches it
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:28, archived)
# "Pikey" is an abbreviation of "turnpike"
and, as such, derives from a reference to itinerant labourers in the 17th and 18th centuries ("turnpike riders", IIRC). It's got connotations of snobbery, but I don't see the racism...
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:28, archived)
# Travellers are a race now
which is why you can't say gyppo either
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:31, archived)
# funny that.
When the "Gyp" in Gypsie comes from "Egyptian", and has nothing to do with the races who currently claim the term.
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:34, archived)
# Traveller and gypsy are different.
"Gypsy" is a contraction of "Egyptian", which is where members of this particular nomadic community were mistakenly thought to originate when they arrived in England in the 16th century. (In fact, they're from northern India originally; yep: the English response was "Darkies all look the same to me" even then....)

There's nothing ethnically determinate about a traveller.
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:37, archived)
# Except
for their proliferate breeding and possession of very ill looking Horses
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 13:23, archived)
# If "pikey" is a race, then I'm up for a spot of ethnic cleansing.
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 11:29, archived)
# Quote of the week.
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 12:19, archived)
#
the acceptable term is 'Irish Tinkers'
(, Wed 7 Oct 2009, 13:48, archived)