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# If that was the criteria for voting then fair enough
but to say repeatedly there would be a vote and saying they wouldn't sign anything until the public were happy to do so and then go off and do it anyway is a fucking liberty.

At least thats the way I see it. I might have missed a trick some where.
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:29, archived)
# The irony of you using the word liberty is that sentence
is not lost on me ;)
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:31, archived)
# Quite.
I was going to change it but decided against it.

Almost like posting what could be seen as an anti-european post and using the words 'faux pas' in a reply.

:D
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:34, archived)
# Well technically speaking the thing they promised the vote on and the thing they independently ratified aren't actually the same.
But I see where you're coming from.
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:31, archived)
# They promised a vote on the constitution.
Fortunately, the French rejected that, which saved the UK population the indignity of making a national arse of itself.

The Treaty is different, and there's no reason at all to have a referendum on a treaty. There never has been before, so there's no precedent. And it's a precedent that no government would want to set - quite understandably and rightly, in my view.
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:33, archived)
# Still
Grrrrrr... eh?
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:35, archived)