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# Also very easy
I've realised I can't draw and I've regressed to the level of a five year old with a load of tracing paper. :)
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:01, archived)
# I suddenly realized when I did this one
that I actually can draw! XD
I thought I could only trace
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:03, archived)
# You also have a Fratellis lyric as your signature
This is a good thing.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:05, archived)
# Yay!
:D
right now I can only seem to listen to the Fratellis, Straylight Run, and City and Colour. I need more in that vein.
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:08, archived)
# I have never heard of two of those bands
It may be three. I don't know if City and Colour is a band, or if City is a band and Colour is another band.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:11, archived)
# It's two.
Straylight Run
and
City and Colour
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:14, archived)
# I shall give them a listen
Even if it does feel weird taking musical advice from someone who is more or less half my age...


Edit: Despite myself, I've enjoyed both of these.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:21, archived)
# SHe's got great taste
her age belies her musical wisdom. The fatheral unit she was supplied with is well musically versed as well.

KK - do you know of Trespassers WIlliam?
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:23, archived)
# She's American but somehow likes (and has even heard of) the Fratellis
which is certainly a good start.

Now to get her onto Idlewild.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPNFApou5_4
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:25, archived)
# Heard of them, but never listened before.
I'm listening now. I like. :]
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:33, archived)
# they have an interesting career arc
that's from their first album, back in the days when they were basically punk. over the next few albums they flirted with rem-like folk rock, then with u2-like stadium rock, then more rem, and then told the lead singer to fuck off and record his damned fucking folk albums under his own name so that they could get back to playing rock. he did (and they're superb too, if you like folk), they did.

they're still a great band, but the early stuff has a ramshackle charm about it.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:38, archived)
# Wait...
What does being American have to do with it? I'm American...

And I like them just fine.

What about these fellows?
vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=457201
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:38, archived)
# Didn't know the Fratellis had broken at all in the States
But I've been proven wrong in the past :)


Edit: There's something very early-mid 90s about them. They remind me quiet a bit of the Wannadies, actually.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:40, archived)
# They are on the same label
as Sufjan Stevens. I cannae get enough.
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:56, archived)
# well the two of you have managed to get the whole of costello music stuck in my head
and this will stop me getting to sleep, and it's an important day tomorrow too. I HOPE YOU'RE PROUD OF YOURSELVES.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 22:05, archived)
# Sorry mate
what's tomorrow? Does the spiny semen of the dark one come???
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 22:12, archived)
# Yeah
I've got a phone interview for a job I really want. After they told me I shouldn't need a phone interview because they already know me.

Actually I'm going to have to go to bed now to make sure I can be up early enough to actually read over what I put in my application to prepare. But rest assured that we shall be back to Pan-shaped apocalyptic normality tomorrow. (And if you missed yesterday's, it's here: www.b3ta.com/board/9816354)

OK, to bed, perchance to dream.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 22:18, archived)
# Oooh, thank you
:D

And no. Should I listen?
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:31, archived)
# Yes you should listen!!!
Very etherial.
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:45, archived)
# I shall
:D
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:55, archived)
# Ohh, hahaha
:D
Straylight only have 2 full albums but I have them both and I can't listen to much else right now. Except City and Colour and the Fratellis. As I said. x]
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:34, archived)
# I preferred the Straylight to the City and Colour
but I think I'll acquire both of them. Thanks for the links :)
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:36, archived)
# Yeah Straylight it amazing.
Their two albums are Straylight Run and The Needles The Space. Both are equally good.
(I helped save b3ta! Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:39, archived)
# My Fratellis Video
was banned by Warners a couple of weeks ago in a copyright claim, which was interesting as Warners don't own them. I got it back by contacting the Fratellis direct. But WMG then banned my Take it Easy vid, which they had already had muted 6 months ago. I had only left it there for the comments. They are so grown up.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:27, archived)
# Record companies are pricks
I'm going to learn how to do it myself and set up my own label. Doubtless I shall become a prick but hopefully I'll also get rich in the process.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:29, archived)
# As long as you
take my back catalogue and make me rich...
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:34, archived)
# Ah but if I'm starting a record label
then I get the right to sit there and poo-poo other people's music and laugh and snort coke and steal their ideas.

What a job. WHAT a job.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:39, archived)
# Actually i think the job now
is to churn out plastic Barbie/Ken bands doing covers or get someone to talk, sorry rap, over music from 30 years ago then whine that people are killing music by file sharing it.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:45, archived)
# Well, I can do all of that, too
That's *easy*.

In all seriousness it can't be hard to start a record label. I mean, Forward, Russia (no, sorry, upside-down exclamation mark Forward, Russia!) did it and they were an inbred pack of fucking retarded chumps who wrote really, really rubbish music.

You're not in Forward, Russia, are you? I don't think I'll be able to release your music if you are.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:52, archived)
# I'm not with any label, and never was
it was only ever a hobby and a bit of pin money; I did some session singing but really i was only ever resteraunt/hotel lobby class. I've retired now but still have a load of old demos*

*on 78s
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:57, archived)
# Get those demos onto a computer
and start flogging them through iTunes. Unless Apple have stopped us being able to sell stuff through iTunes, in which case let's set up a small record label and register to flog them through iTunes.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:59, archived)
# Ha! I mave made some of my vids to them
But only covers, and they have all bindun, and far better. I will make my fortune elsewhere, methinks.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 22:04, archived)
# Vids, eh?
I believe* if you've got a record label, you can charge YouTube for video showings.

1) Upload vids
2) Set browser to watch videos a million times
3) Profit

* This may not be true but it'd be nice if it was.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 22:06, archived)
# Ha! foiled again
I have 80 vids posted, not all mine, and I'm at just under 2 million views, for the lot. At a tenth of a penny per view, we will be poor a looooong time.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 22:13, archived)
# That's still two grand
Minus the record company's cut, you might see a few hundred bob. Better than a smack in the mouth on a dark night, eh?
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 22:16, archived)
# I had that happen to me
over Holiday Inn Cambodia for the Dead Kennedys.

Strangely enough though, Belle and Sebastian hasn't banned the vid I made for them...
(I helped save b3ta! Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:47, archived)
# Yeah but Belle and Sebastian are brilliant people
Allegedly. (A friend of a friend knows Chris Geddes and says that *he's* a good guy, anyway. So, by extension...)

Plus, I sound like Stuart Murdoch when I sing. So they must be great people.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 1 Dec 2009, 21:53, archived)