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58/100 = 0.58

34/0.58 = 58.6206896551724137931034483 (confusingly)
100 - 58.6206896551724137931034483 = 41.3793103448275862068965517, so I guess that's the decline as a percentage.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:57, archived)

that's what I said, although I rounded up to 41.4

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:59, archived)

Yeah but you didn't show your working

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The Coast Of Yemen, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:00, archived)

And I provided my doings.

No wate what's the word ... workings.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:00, archived)

Well I'm autistic, I have no idea how I got the answer - I just did.

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:05, archived)

oo ta

and thanks monge

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Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:05, archived)

you're welcome, but I can imagine why you might not have trusted the answer without the doings

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:07, archived)

no but the question

states 58% and 34% of people - if there are 100 people, 58 of 100 read in 1994 and 34 of 100 in 2008 meaning a drop of 24% - whatever the value is for people is 100%, and the percentage decline relates to this value

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twig Save 6 Music, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:09, archived)

wrong

there is a decline of readership of 41.4%
24% less of the population now read a paper

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:14, archived)

the question doesn't state whether its readership or population

just asks for the decline, so both are right

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twig Save 6 Music, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:16, archived)

Mighty Nibus asked for the decline.

And clearly demonstrated the ability to subtract 34 from 58, so I'm pretty sure the answer to his question is 41.4%.
If it's for a presentation, he probably shouldn't say 'it is both 41.4 AND 24 percent'.

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:21, archived)

so because he got 24%

the answer must be 41.4%? Nibus I think he's calling you thick

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twig Save 6 Music, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:26, archived)

okay, let's split the difference - the answer is 32.7%

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:36, archived)

I can't decide

if you know I'm being silly or if you're getting wound up

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twig Save 6 Music, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:40, archived)

I can't decide if you think 32.7 was a serious sugestion :)

edit for clarity: no, I wasn't taking it seriously - I'm glad I correctly assumed that you weren't either.
Nibus clearly lost interest some time ago...

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:41, archived)

Yep, that could be right too

sometimes I see BBC news articles treat a percentage drop in this way and I get confused, but they're an official national institution and hardly ever make lots of typos so it must be a valid way to do it.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:15, archived)

the percentage decline is the percentage decline of the percentages.

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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:15, archived)

if Percentage Decline is the name of a mathematical rule

then it should have captials, and not be written in lower case where it could be misinterpreted and generalised
I stopped doing Maths after GCSE, but I have an English degree so I'm now attempting to baffle you mathematicians with linguistics

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twig Save 6 Music, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:25, archived)

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4Q just lurking, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:32, archived)