The Pew Research Center
has conducted extensive polls all over the world asking Muslims about their attitudes to apostasy, women's right, homosexuality, rule of law etc etc. The results are presented country by country. It makes for shocking and uncomfortable reading and reveals extremely prevalent views held by Muslims the world over. I urge you to look it up. It is hard data. The whole 'everything is fine, there are just a few nutters with extreme views that just happen to subscribe to this faith' cant is just trite wishful thinking.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:03,
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The Salafists have been fucking up Islam since the 1800's
Shit has hit rock bottom.
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^and this is it, on the head
unfortunately it's birthplace is also the most important place on the planet
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Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:10,
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It's birthplace is Bognor Regis?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:15,
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THis may sound weird.
But part of their grand plan is to destroy Mecca.
Because it ain't pure.
They already smashed a lot of it.
It's a cultural genocide only comparable to the one they would commit if they weren't timid daddy money tabbies.
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I read an interesting article about that.
they have proper smashed up destroyed loads of centuries old stuff.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:19,
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I've been reading about that, really strange
you would think some of those places would be sacred to the faith, i'm sure they are to the wider Islamic world, which must really suck given this lot are demolishing them
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Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:20,
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Salafists are Nihilists.
Absolute nihilists.
Only the absence of humans, including themselves, and everything they have ever created can be truly pure.
Think Khmer Rouges but worse. Much worse.
Because they have a long term grand plan.
And we are all it.
Without our heads.
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Say what you like about national socialism
At least it's an ethos
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 22:36,
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I think if you surveyed any random section of society, religious or otherwise, you'd be shocked how many racists, homophobes and general fuck heads you turn up.
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I've seen that Pew Resaerch Center data.
The thing that most struck me about was it failed to poll what non Muslims in each country thought of the same issues, making it completely useless as a piece of research to see if Islam is the cause of their views.
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The Awful Puppy Bakery is still bored, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:22,
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Er...
given that all the questions directly or indirectly related to Islam, and that most of the surveys were conducted in countries with an overwhelming muslim majority, I'm not sure why they would question non Muslims. It was explicitly and overtly research into views held by Muslims mainly in the muslim world.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:29,
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If you are using it as an
argument that Islam is somehow different to other religions, then it would be relevant to compare data.
I suspect the Christian attitude to homosexuality wouldn't be particularly liberal, especially in places like Uganda.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 20:11,
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Great.
But unless you have a regional baseline to compare it with (a cultural norm), you cannot point to any particular opinion and blame Islamic influence for it.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 20:35,
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