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This is a normal post When talking about nonces in the establishment that are being protected even today it helps to put them into context within the establishment.
They matter because some may assume being an establishment nonce is the preserve of "the bloody Tories"

Also matters because Lords Janner was publically defended by his friend and fellow Labour MP Keith Vaz who spoke up in parliament to have the 1991 investigation scrapped as he was “the victim of a cowardly and wicked attack”. The investigation has since been shown to have had enough evidence for a prosecution.

Also on Labour, at the time a lot of these abuses were supposed to be taking place Harriet Harman was an official at National Council for Civil Liberties (Now just Liberty) and campaigning on behalf of the Paedophile Information exchange.

And it matters about Smith that being a liberal because he was clearly being defended yet had little party power. What hold did he have over the establishment?
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:58, Reply)
This is a normal post I still cannot fucking believe that
that vile evil cunt scum got off scott free for her paedophile advocacy. Had she been a tory the BBC, Guardian and Mirror would never have allowed that to happen.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I can't believe she didn't just give a "politician's apology" and shrug it off.

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:42, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think political alignment is an issue.
More that they like fucking kids.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:10, Reply)
This is a normal post When they're being protected because of their political status and have used their position of power to abuse kids.
It matters to me.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Posting this video is really showing intent.
HUGE statement from you.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes by all means call them "MP" but their alignment matters not

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Matters to me when i'm being asked to vote for their political parties every 4 or so years.
Smiths party allegiance also mattered to clegg when more accusations were being slung about him before the election.

Clegg made sure to point out smith was a Labour M.P at the time of the abuse.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Why?
Do you think the thoughts and actions of an individual dictate those of all his or her associations? Jimmy Saville presented Top of the Pops. Does that mean everyone who presented it was a massive nonce? Should you have not watched it either, because you will be supporting the nonces and their cleverly crafted agenda. Watching it might even make you a nonce by association!
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:45, Reply)
This is a normal post I think the actions of a party and how they protect those accused of serious crimes is very important.
TOTP?
Not just by Saville, but other presenters (throw a rock in 70's radio 1 pool of djs), performers and even crew have been implicated and last I looked investigations were still happening into that show.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes TOTP is probably a bad analogy.
Still I don't think the actions of individuals are anything to do with their associations/workplaces etc etc...

These crimes should be pointed at individuals and those who protected them, disregarding their association. It's just a personal opinion, I wouldn't want to taint the many with the actions of the few.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Ok here's one for you.
Members of the catholic church has been accused of child abuse, senior members have been accused of covering it up.

There's also reports of abuse in the methodist and Church of England.

When reporting on this should the nature of the church be mentioned?
Or should it be redacted in order to not taint other believers of the same church?
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes it shouldn't be considered.
A VIP nonce abuses a position of power. That powerful position is relevant, although their beliefs or ideals are not.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Shall we agree to disagree?
We're running out of horizontal screen space and I hate it when it starts stacking the words in a message.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:20, Reply)
This is a normal post Ha!
Why can't /talk be this civilised =D
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:21, Reply)
This is a normal post When I asked them, it turned out to be because my mum is a whining spastic.

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:13, Reply)