why are people who want a ban on killing animals for shits and giggles "crazies"?
Just because a country makes a load of money from killing animals doesn't make it acceptable or even a necessary evil. There are always other options.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 8:57,
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They could learn to take photos instead - more skill required too, so that would give them more to boast about.
Plenty of equipment to fetishise too.
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fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 9:07,
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Evey subject has fetishists and assorted snobs...
I'm doing wood stuff that need traditional wood cutting tools.
There's a lot of video on how to sharpen blades...
... A lot run to more that 30 minutes, just for basic straight edge sharpening, not even adjusting it.
You need water stones, oil stones, contraptions to hold the blade at a perfect comity approved angle all the way to 10 000 grit and above in small steps. Not forgetting perfectly flat stones, other stones you rub on the first stones, distilled water and specialist oil made form the skin of beetles.
Confused by all this I asked a local traditional bespoke cabinet maker about his method.
Water abrasive paper, 180, 500, 1000, a 30 by 30cm granite tile and window cleaner.
I've seen him sharpen a plane in minutes. That includes taking it out and puting it back together...
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We need more posts about sharpening tools!
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 15:07,
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Flattery
About flattening flat irons for a flattering flat finish...
Will get you nowhere.
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Why so sharp? I was actually serious : )
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 20:17,
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Other options;
For example: African Buffalo.
How do you control herd size in reserve area so they don't kill the other inmates?
I mean in a realistic manner? Even lions refrain from having a go at them.
Shooting a few of them is the only real option.
The parks actually finance a lot of conservation off a few bullets.
I would never do it, but if whack-jobs with big guns and small penises want to pay for conservation that way, I'm ok with it.
But that does not mean a free for all.
It should be done in a controlled manner, on specific animals where the money actually ends up doing something good (like protecting EW and CR species).
And it must be a single bullet instant death scenario, not the dodgy horror scrip that Cecil had to suffer.
Killing photo rent earners like Cecil was is financially indefensible. The earnings for lodging alone to see him and his group was his death price every 3 months...
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if there is a need to cull a herd
I don't see how giving the job to someone who gets off on it is a good thing.
That's like selling the chance to pull the switch on a death row inmate to the highest bidder.
Sure it might give some funds to the prison or even the family of those he has killed, but it's still fucked up.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 9:15,
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MONEY LOADS OF MONEY
To finance the protection of the other species.
If done properly, the animals are butchered earning even more from meat, hides or Chinese erection deficiency cures.
You and I would not do it, but parks would be financially irresponsible not to.
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If you need to manage an animal population, manage the animal population professionally; not by auctioning off the deed to the hands of psychotic mentalists. These people need medical help, not a free reign killing things. The concept of rich hunters buying their way into other countries to kill their wildlife is loathsome.
The argument their money actually benefits conservation, or the local people is highly questionable. Firstly as a conservationist, or someone working in conservation, you would have to seriously ignore your own fundamental principals to take that money from these wankers in the first place. It's just rich people running amok not giving a shit about wildlife having a highly irresponsible attitude to often endangered species, and it's not sustainable. Telling Africans to conserve their wildlife whilst a few rich westerners go in a kill it also reeks of colonialism. Also in an age of poaching for pseudo scientific bollocks medicine in animal body parts, and the trade in ivory, trophy hunting is a serious distraction.
This highlights quite how sick the mentality of these hunters is:
Exposing the Safari Club International
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Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 12:01,
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I agree with you...
...But reality is somewhat messier that the pure concept that you expose.
As an aside, I hate hunting, I hate killing stuff, even pruning trees makes me question humanity...
The concept of "wankers running amok" is what's to be avoided: it should be long tracking expeditions, following tracks and shit.
Not shooting an animal eating a lure with a bow from a car while drinking beer.
It should be organised by the parks for their conservation efforts and financial gain. Not poachers out for a quick buck.
The act of killing certain animals was the privilege of the few in precolonial Africa, as in the British Isles.
In any case, there is no perfect solution,except getting all humans out of the scenery, park them on Mars in steel rabbit hutches and let nature do it's thing without our intervention.
But that's going to be complicated.
So a zombie apocalypse where only 1 to 5% of humans survive is the next best option.
Where you and I have a 95 to 99% chance of ending up as "braaainns".
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Why not let them hunt poachers instead?
Saves animals from extinction, does the park rangers' jobs for them... everyone's a winner.
Human trophies could be a new craze. A wall full of mounted nobs would make quite the conversation piece at dinner parties.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 9:19,
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Well that's the whole idea (in a perfect idea)
Fat Boby Gee with his big gawn pays a lot to knock off a Buffalo.
This in turn pays the salaries of the warden who knock off poachers.
In an ideal world, I bet Boby Gee would looove to pump lead into poachers directly - and pay top dollars for it.
But rich fat white men shooting poor black Africans might run into some wee legal hurdles.
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But the US seems quite content shooting black people at home.
Why would they get uppity about people doing it on holiday?
Is it the unions? Are they complaing that if dentists shoot black people it is robbing hard working policemen of the opportunity?
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 13:51,
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I think we need a marketing campaign in China...
...to tell the 'traditional medicine purveyors'* that dried poacher penis is far more effective in their remedies than any part of a wild animal.
*Fucking mumbo jumbo artists. Saw a part of a programme last night where they're paying $27,000/kilo for fungus-infused, dead caterpillars. FFS.
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Two companies have recently developed synthetic rhino horn
but conservationists doubt such alternatives would make any difference. For wealthy Chinese consumers the real thing is a status symbol.
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 10:22,
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really?
Synthesizing a substance that has no medicinal effect to sell to people that think it does.
That's properly mad when you think about it
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It is
www.savetherhino.org/rhino_info/thorny_issues/synthetic_rhino_horn_will_it_save_the_rhino
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 11:45,
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Pretty interesting for a fungus.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_sinensis
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Tue 4 Aug 2015, 13:59,
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