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This is a normal post No brainer for me
If BMW won't sell me a car or price me out, for being out, I'll buy a Lexus. If the Portugese Tourist board don't want my money, I'll go to Florida. If Ryan Air won't fly me somewhere, Easy Jet will. If they won't, BA will. If I can't buy a German fridge, a Korean one will suffice.
There might be a little fuss and flurry, but the old price wars will settle down fast enough.
Tough to travel? I just had a friend holiday in Vietnam and another in Peru. The paperwork was a doddle.
Defence? UN and NATO, plus we have the biggest armed services of the lot. I can't see us crying to Macedonia to help us defend our airspace if (who?) tries to invade.
 (TSLunch, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 0:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thats how I see it if we leave.
Might be 5 years until things sort out, might be 10, but sort out they will. And the situation during those 5/10 years might be worse than if we'd stayed in, I'm prepared and allowing for that. BUT, come 5/10 years when my children are becoming adults, I'd like to think they'll be coming into a better system and better country, than if we'd remained.
 (robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 1:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post I agree with all that...
except Greece has the biggest number of troops in the EU.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 1:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think I'd still feel safer in the UK than Greece :)
www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=united-kingdom&country2=greece&Submit=COMPARE
 (robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 1:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post That is like the best Top Trumps ever.
I think I'm confusing Greece with Turkey, or something. I should probably retire now. Goodnight.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 2:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Is easy to tell the difference
Turkey's the one that has Merkel using the powers of state to suppress a poem, despite sending death threats to German M.Ps, using migrants as a political tool, horrible human rights record, picking fights with Russia that could land us all in it, killing Kurds, suppressing free speech....

Greece is the one with lovely food.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 9:47, , Reply)