Humans are not above nature. We are not 'special'
You talk about humans from the inside looking out. If you take one further step back, you'll see that we are doing the same as every other species - we're just way better at it.
The clever thing about humans is that we can also fix the problems that we create. You picked carbon footprints as the measure of damage, but a billion or so years ago, it was plants that oxygenated the atmosphere - presumably killing off a huge number of species in the process, but that gave rise to animals and myriad other species.
We might be fucking the place up a bit right now, but give it a hundred years or so, and we will have solved that problem.
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You talk about humans from the inside looking out. If you take one further step back, you'll see that we are doing the same as every other species - we're just way better at it.
The clever thing about humans is that we can also fix the problems that we create. You picked carbon footprints as the measure of damage, but a billion or so years ago, it was plants that oxygenated the atmosphere - presumably killing off a huge number of species in the process, but that gave rise to animals and myriad other species.
We might be fucking the place up a bit right now, but give it a hundred years or so, and we will have solved that problem.
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Despite my personal feelings on the matter at hand...
I love how B3ta is still capable of calm, reasoned debate occasionally :)
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I love how B3ta is still capable of calm, reasoned debate occasionally :)
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Well your feelings are WRONG, even if the conclusion happens to be right ;)
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Preach on, Brother Penis...
I agree with all your points - a friend of mine can not seem to grasp that the most environmentally unfriendly thing you can do is have children (he has two and is a complete recycling nazi).
He's basically extended his carbon footprint potentially another 35 years minimum assuming his kids don't have kids as well.
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I agree with all your points - a friend of mine can not seem to grasp that the most environmentally unfriendly thing you can do is have children (he has two and is a complete recycling nazi).
He's basically extended his carbon footprint potentially another 35 years minimum assuming his kids don't have kids as well.
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