Corbyn finally responds to the Syria bombing.
Must have been a delay in receiving his instructions from Putin.
He appears to be on the same page as UKIP.
Christ even the Lib Dems are calling for more military action.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:11,
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Finally, someone comes up with a realistic and viable path to peace.
Perhaps Ken could be his special envoy to Syria. He certainly has the discreet and deft diplomatic style required.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:14,
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From fake news to phoney wars...
...the PM sliding up to Trump to support an illegal strike used just to make him look tough. They even called the Russians beforehand. Corbyn is right.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:20,
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Illegal?
What do you mean?
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:42,
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Syria is still a state, there was no specific UN resolution. Just last week a US airstrike killed over 100 in Iraq, would it be ok for Russia to cross over to Iraq and bomb an Iraqi army airbase? 52 Tomahawks at a cost of over $1M USD each to bomb an airstrip the Russian will rebuild in a month, what a joke.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:53,
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Bless
The UN, forsooth!
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:01,
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Amen to that!
"We have issued a resolution condemning the bad thing in the strongest possible terms."
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:05,
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Nobody is taking it seriously anymore. I think the problem is branding,
Need a new sexy name like the Avengers or the Justice League...
How about League of Nations!
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:06,
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If you look a bit closer, the military action was in response to the use of sarin gas on Syrian civilians
The 1925 Geneva Treaty stated that chemical and biological weapons are "justly condemned by the general opinion of the civilised world."
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:10,
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If it was proven to be Syrian forces.I don't think the 1925 Geneva Treaty was on Trumps mind when he started going on about protecting Gods Children.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:21,
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Is your hatred so strong for Trump, that you resort to using news articles from four years ago as your citation?
I think Trump was extremely clear in his condemnation of the gas attack, even describing how the affected children appeared. Just because you're ideologically opposed to him, at least be honest enough when he does something people said should have been done four years ago.
www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-white-house-says-reprehensible-gas-1491324692-htmlstory.html
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:39,
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Ow wow. I am not ideologically opposed to Trump. Part of his reason for doing this is to look tough. It will not help to resolve anything in Syria. He is not a religious man he was clearly pandering with that God reference. I wasn't aware of the b3ta policy on not using dated citations. "something people said" ha.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:46,
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The reason I mentioned the dated citation was that you seemed to be using that to contradict Trump's statement. If I was wrong, I apologize.
I personally wish this had never happened. But there are many things I wish had never happened and we have to operate in the reality that exists.
Heaven help us.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:55,
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"justly condemned by the general opinion of the civilised world"
That's a snappy summary of Trump's first couple of months in office
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Justly condemned doesn't mean an automatic declaration of war.
Not the the absence of a state of war has stopped anyone so far...
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jonbob loves you, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 22:08,
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Humanitarian intervention, init?
Was the justification we used during the Kosovo conflict.
Another one where we couldn't get a resolution because of Russia.
Technically that was illegal too I think.
America could also probably argue self defence too, which is allowed.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:14,
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America has been bombing loads of places in Syria already without the permission of Assad..
Probably with lots of civilian deaths,just this time it was a military target.
Don't see what makes this one more illegal than all the others.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:01,
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You are right this one is no more illegal than the others. I think there might have been UN resolution to conduct small scale military action against IS for humanitarian purposes.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:25,
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I prefer NeoGeo
Metal Slug Rules!
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:57,
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Wow, I actually agree with the guy on something!
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Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:36,
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For balance, sitting around with thumbs up arses waiting for the UN to decide on fucking anything, when Russia will just veto it, will also risk the deaths of hundreds of thousands more.
Anyone else watch the C4 documentary on the Shia militias in Iraq last night?
Tony Blair really did a wonderful job as peace envoy. Surely his Nobel Prize must be in the post.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 13:58,
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It's time to call time on interventionism.
It worked post WW2 with Japan, but every instance since has been an abject failure. The west needs to stop trying to be the moral enforcer and world police. Anything we do will make it worse. It's terrible, but not make it worse like we did in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq & cetera.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 14:38,
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I have a simple solution.
Throw all our weight behind Assad. Launch a massive ground assault on rebel forces, and ISIS. Once the country is in the control of a single unified army, have Assad quietly assassinated.
I'm actually pretty sure this is Russia's game plan anyway; leave them to it I say!
Oh, and the gas? Assad would have everything to lose and nothing at all to gain by an air launched gas attack; the rebels could easily have a stockpile that went up, but Trump didn't wait for an investigation, just went of half-cocked as usual (see Yemen)
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da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 15:17,
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If you're killed by a randomly dropped barrel bomb or a chemical weapon are you really arsed how you died?
I'm struggling to see why one is considered so much more heinous than the other
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 15:23,
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As I said above, it's more shocking because they can show the dead on tv.
Like with the migrants drowning, lots of people only suddenly cared when they saw a photo.
You cant show people that have been blown to bits on the telly, best you can do is show the broken survivors in hospital all patched up with bandages on.
Saying that death by chemical weapons is particularly nasty.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 7 Apr 2017, 15:36,
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