Marvellous
I've wanted to try something similar with spider webs for a long time - they sometimes go to the middle and pluck the radial strands in turn which I'd love to be able to hear. I didn't know if it was to check for prey on the web or to see if there was any damage to the web - having just looked it up it appears to be both.
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 16:59, Share, Reply)
I've wanted to try something similar with spider webs for a long time - they sometimes go to the middle and pluck the radial strands in turn which I'd love to be able to hear. I didn't know if it was to check for prey on the web or to see if there was any damage to the web - having just looked it up it appears to be both.
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There are optical pickups for guitars
that way you wouldn't need a physical connection to the web (real web, not interweb, obvs).
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 17:50, Share, Reply)
that way you wouldn't need a physical connection to the web (real web, not interweb, obvs).
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 17:50, Share, Reply)
Brilliant idea!
A home made piezo contact mic would be cheaper though (a piezo cell is like 10p, plus some wire and maaaaybe some glue or tape), and anything left in proximity to a cobweb is likely to become attached anyway...
But a laser or optical pickup would make for a cleaner signal, certainly. I wonder if it's possible to make an optical pickup from an old CD player....
*researches*
Conclusion: It would be easier to genetically engineer a spider to produce metallic webs so you could use standard electric guitar pickups.
Also optical pickups for guitar might not notice the presence of a cobweb, what with it being about a thousandth of the diameter of an E string.
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 19:28, Share, Reply)
A home made piezo contact mic would be cheaper though (a piezo cell is like 10p, plus some wire and maaaaybe some glue or tape), and anything left in proximity to a cobweb is likely to become attached anyway...
But a laser or optical pickup would make for a cleaner signal, certainly. I wonder if it's possible to make an optical pickup from an old CD player....
*researches*
Conclusion: It would be easier to genetically engineer a spider to produce metallic webs so you could use standard electric guitar pickups.
Also optical pickups for guitar might not notice the presence of a cobweb, what with it being about a thousandth of the diameter of an E string.
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 19:28, Share, Reply)
Maybe simpler to look for existing video of spiders plucking webs
and then adding sound in time with the plucking?
Possibly vary note with the length of the part of the web plucked?
Montage of random notes and spiders going 1,2, 1,2 before the music starts
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 20:06, Share, Reply)
and then adding sound in time with the plucking?
Possibly vary note with the length of the part of the web plucked?
Montage of random notes and spiders going 1,2, 1,2 before the music starts
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 20:06, Share, Reply)
Simpler, yes
but the objective is to hear what the spider's web actually sounds like.
My guess is it's less of a springlike PEW and more like a membranous wobbly scratchy noise.
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but the objective is to hear what the spider's web actually sounds like.
My guess is it's less of a springlike PEW and more like a membranous wobbly scratchy noise.
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 21:02, Share, Reply)
What might an optical pickup do with a screen image?
Presumably altering contrast/brightness/etc. to suit.
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 21:48, Share, Reply)
Presumably altering contrast/brightness/etc. to suit.
( , Tue 19 Jan 2021, 21:48, Share, Reply)
You'd need a phd and a high enough screen refresh rate to get accurate audio from a video of vibration, I think.
Consider CD audio is 44,100 'frames' per second, while HD video is between 24 and 60 frames per second, so there's just not enough information to work with to reproduce high frequency sounds.
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Consider CD audio is 44,100 'frames' per second, while HD video is between 24 and 60 frames per second, so there's just not enough information to work with to reproduce high frequency sounds.
( , Wed 20 Jan 2021, 14:03, Share, Reply)
Of course, the display is the limiting factor, irrespective of the camera speed.
I imagined if a high speed camera was used, the footage slowed, then corrected for frequency after. As you say, not easy.
( , Wed 20 Jan 2021, 17:45, Share, Reply)
I imagined if a high speed camera was used, the footage slowed, then corrected for frequency after. As you say, not easy.
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