Great. Another 'objective' pro-remain analysis from the BBC
Whatever. There's pros/cons of being/not being in the EU.
The BBC view is always a sneery: Here's Brexit and things we think have gone wrong. There's no neutrality as the BBC is pro-remain.
There is no balance or counterpoint. There's never been a view on the downside(s) of the EU.
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Feel free
to give us all the myriad examples of why leaving the EU is going to benefit us in the long term.
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Give us all the myriad reasons
why continued membership of the EU was a good idea?
If you're scared of change and thinking for yourself that's fine. Order some blankets from IKEA and hide under them.
No-one has ever stated the eventual direction of the EU. Its eventual goal. And end point. And what life will be like then. Blind acceptance of the EU is mindless.
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Answer the question with a question.
you sound like a Sinn Fein spokesperson when asked did they justify a shooting.
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hahahaha
"If you're scared of change and thinking for yourself that's fine... "
"No-one has ever stated the eventual direction of the EU. Its eventual goal. And end point. And what life will be like then..."
this is a contradiction. I'm sure you don't understand why.
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Hey, you seem to be a thick cunt. Let me help you with that.
Here are the main reasons why continued membership of the EU would have been a good idea for us, and remains a good idea for the remaining members.
Peace:
Specifically for us, Brexit invites a return to civil war AKA the 'Irish Troubles.' It also weakens our ties with those who have been our fiercest rivals in the past, increasing the risk of war in Europe overall. It also invites Russia to take the piss even more than it did when we were backed up by our tougher allies.
Prosperity:
Frictionless trade, free movement of goods, services and people as part of the largest free trade zone in the world. All gone. For cheaper TimTams, whatever they are.
Influence:
We used to have it. Now we are nothing more than a loudmouth shitcountry, subservient to just about everyone because Brexit forced us to abdicate our leadership role in world affairs. Because of fish that we don't eat, or something.
Freedom:
Before we had our European citizenship taken from us against our will, we had more rights and freedoms than we do now. The tories want to remove even more, ostensibly to prevent prisoners from voting, but it will remove the most basic and fundamental human rights from all of us. For what? So we can send kippers through the mail.
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If only Nigel Farage had managed to get himself on the news
or Question Time but the BBC never NO WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE THAT CUNT WAS ON THE CUNTING BEEEB NON FUCKING STOP FOR MOST OF MY SHITTY LIFE YOU TWAT!!!!
"There's never been a view on the downside(s) of the EU."
Fuck off. I've had to put up with that frog faced twat and his minions for an eternity to provide "balance" to sanity and banging on about the EcockingU.
Fuck the fuck off. No balance or counterpoint indeed, Suzanne twatting Evans?! Laurence Fox?!?! Nobody's ever voted for these people yet the BBC is full of them. No balance my arse.
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Seeing as you're so well informed
present the top 3 downsides to continued EU membership?
Out of all the news organisations you've managed to name 3 people who gave views against the EU. Considering the absolute bias of the BBC (and C4 as well) these are outliers.
Getting shouty and sweary doest make you right. It just means you've been sucking at the teat of ignorance for too long.
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this is the stupidest thing I've seen written on here since Cerebus left
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it's still bothering me now
"why dont you make my arguments for me if you're so well informed"
eh?
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I am well informed
I've been exposed to Boris Johnson, Kate Hoey, Jeremy Dyson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Bill Cash basically every time I've watched the news on a TV any interview has had to have balance. I know their options, I heard their arguments and I clearly wasn't alone as 52% of the people who voted to leave the EU.
The idea that nobody was able to put a point of view across in favour of leave the EU is beyond stupid and you know it. You're just an annoying cunt spaffing out a tragic cry wank of nonsense on the thread here because ... well. I don't know.
The only reason I'm replying is because this is the spiritual home of Buffy's swearing keyboard and the refuge of the portmeanteu insult you utter shitcunt. I like insulting you. It's enjoyable. I don't expect to change your point of view, I don't expect to change anyone's - this is the interweb, that shit doesn't happen.
I'm not going to do your "research" for you, go on YouTube and find a nice video yourself.
Getting shouty and sweary you are a shuddering anal fissure of a human being aren't you? Just fuck off back to Parler.
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You know the biggest shit about leaving the EU?
I have always wanted to spend some of my retirement in Europe. Maybe a year in Spain, then another year in Italy. Not a fucking option now is it? Healthcare for a retiree? Nop. Ain't gonna happen. Pension? Leave the UK for a couple of months and it no longer tracks inflation. Want to spent more than 3 months in the EU at one time? Fuck off. I may even have wanted to work in Europe at some point, now remote working's so much easier but no. Bank that operates right across Europe? Nop. Can't do that now because BLUE FUCKING PASSPORTS UUuuUUuuUUuuuUuHhhhHHHHHgghnnnnnnandiv'espunkedonmybluepassportiloveyouuunigel.....
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Bless
Now you'll have to fill out a form with those blunt crayons you're allowed to use.
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No
I’ll have to get dual citizenship. Fucking expensive pain in the chocolate starfish but I can get an EU passport. Probably take me another year at least...
Anyway. I can use crayons since you ate them all.
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"present the top 3 downsides to continued EU membership?"
have you watched the video? and there' will be more
please give me just one benefit of leaving the EU - unless you count breaking up the uk a benefit with N.I being separated and huge boast to Scottish independence?
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been a while since we had a pro brexiter arcing up. I was getting nostaligic
Maybe, and I'll just put this wild possibility out there, that the reason that the "brexit was a fairly stupid and damaging thing for britain to do" view is held by so many of what I'd broadly call the well-educated class of commentators, economists and academics, is not because of a nefarious media conspiracy of bias against brexit, but because it actually was a stupid, costly and damaging thing to do with few of the promised benefits in that pesky thing called reality. That Farage, rather than being an outlier, was one of the very few articulate pro-brexit advocates suitable to be on camera, so that's why they kept plonking him there. I'd also posit that you focussing on perceived bias rather than the failure of brexit to live up to the promises it made fishing communities is a displacement activity to avoid facing the consequences of your views, shooting the messenger when you don't like the message
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Good take
not enough swearing though. I like profanities.
I heard that one of the reasons Farage got so much air time is he really is a great communicator. If you want a quote he'll give you the opinion you need exactly how you need it. An alternative POV for a minster? Nigel's your man. Keep it to 20 seconds? Done. He's an editors dream.
Most of the time the BBC don't care about the politics being put across as long as they counter the other person they've got taking place. They just want someone to interview who will speak clearly, concisely, on the subject they need covering providing a counter to the other person for legal reasons and if they can turn up on time, sober, with a decent tie that doesn't phase on camera and they don't smell too bad or pat the cameraman on the bum TOO MUCH then they'll get used again, and again and again.
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