I did just accurately outline the reality of the situation.
You seem to want to pedal the myth that more lockdown and restricted civil liberties will save us from an apocalypse that isn’t going to happen. What will save us from the pandemic is an effective vaccine roll out, which in the UK we have had. Vaccines work. Follow the science. Stop fearmongering in pursuit of some control freak political agenda.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 19:10,
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There there. Do you feel better now?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:08,
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Good come back, anti-vax boy.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:49,
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You have fun fighting your straw man.
Meanwhile, let's look at the Netherlands and see what we can learn.
Learning things from real data is science.
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 21:26,
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The science is that hospital admissions are way down. The science is that deaths are way, way down.
Screeching “We must continue to wrap ourselves in cotton wool forever!” isn’t scientific. The vaccines work. That’s science.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 21:55,
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idiot
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF4hFfDcV7I
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artifus is doing it all wrong, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 22:20,
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXaXdChPZX0
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 0:17,
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i wish
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIev94s7Mo
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artifus is doing it all wrong, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 0:44,
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Still with the straw men.
Hospital admission is not the same as long Covid.
Vaccines aren't going to totally protect us until we've protected the whole world.
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 22:20,
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Wow! Straw man! I’m worse than Hitler! Blah blah blah.
A useful rebuttal of long Covid hysteria:
fullfact.org/health/long-covid-layla-moran/
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 0:09,
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I'll see your Full Fact, and raise you The Lancet.
Your FF article only claims the numbers are lower than that MP claimed, not that there isn't such a syndrome.
The Lancet Respiratory Medicine article says that there is a post acute Covid syndrome, that it is a concern, and that it seems to be in 10 to 20 % of Covid survivors.
www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(21)00031-X/fulltext
Follow the science.
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 8:24,
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10-20%?
The margin for error is 200% on the lower estimate? That sounds like numbers being picked out of the air, it does not sound very scientific at all.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 10:56,
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That's not an estimate range.
In the article itself, you'll find that 20 % is the number of people with symptoms 5 weeks after recovering from acute covid, and 10 % is the number of people with symptoms 12 weeks after their acute infection.
"Not very scientific at all"? This is the fucking Lancet Respiratory Medicine journal right?
You're telling me to follow the science and you can't be bothered to read the material?
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 15:08,
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He's drunkenly parroting the stuff he hears on Talksport, Facebook, Infowars and the like,
he's not interested in honest discourse.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 17:48,
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I think it's a bit early to tell on hospital admission. The surge in cases has only come in the last week, rising exponentially from a falling base of 300 to 10,000 yesterday
the experience of other surges in cases like the recent sydney outbreak is that there is delay of a week to 10 days before hospital and then ICU admissions rise. covid has a median asymptomatic phase of 5 days. I'd give it another week before you could claim the vaccines are preventing admissions to this subjective point where it's acceptable to most. I hope youre right. However higher vaccination rates were hoped to also significantly reduce transmission and infection rates, and they don't seem to be doing that which is worrying and the cause for their government's alarm. It's rising very fast, infecting the vaccinated and even previous covid victims with the new variant.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 23:11,
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