Tory MP William Wragg, chair oublic administration and constitutional affairs committee
Takes a pop at Downing Street and accuses it of blackmail.
I started posting this as it happened then got into it and forgot.
already the headline, could be fun to watch evolve
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unclepills, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 13:04,
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no idea. Davis was pushed ofrward to be a big beast with his for god's sake go line....
Gove? Sunak's lot? Can't think who'd they'd replace him with that's better for their cause. They want an election winner; a pig with a blue rosette would do if they thought it better than Johnsson but have they got that? Sunak? Dorries? New untarnished dark horse? Now Peston reports that Sue Grey found the email Cummings was on about that warned the May 20 party should be cancelled. www.itv.com/news/2022-01-20/sue-gray-finds-email-warning-against-no10-drinks-party-in-may-2020
It's a shame that politics is such a spectator sport and whatever happens, it usually means nothing of benefit to the public. Gah, but at least some simple pleasures, I suppose
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unclepills, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 13:54,
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Rishi Sunak is far and away the strongest potential leader that they have.
Young, slick, perceived as having been a safe pair of hands during Covid (implementing furlough etc). Plus, he would benefit from the meathead vote 'I can't be racist, I voted for a brown person' etc.
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Bear in mind that the tory party membership is composed entirely of horrendous old duffers though
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I still reckon Rishi Poo-Snacks is their most credible leader-in-waiting
The Tory faithful don't always go for the 'traditional' choice; David Cameron did beat David Davis in the final shoot-out.
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Canon was overwhelmingly the traditional choice there
Eton, Oxford, very old and wealthy tory family. Davis grew up on a council estate
*Cameron
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if only there was an edit button
Tories love a working-class lad made good, look at John Major.
'Canon' was a fresh-faced new MP with no cabinet experience and a modernising agenda; Davis was a late middle-aged ex Army bloke with traditional right wing views.
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You can't edit subject lines on /links
thanks to the unique way b3ta has been coded.
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This is the most vote-winning election slogan of all time
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 15:13,
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Has no experience of leadership and leads a millionaire lifestyle.
Seems more articulate than Boris, but then who doesn’t?
Let’s face it, the only reason anyone likes Rishi is furlough.
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jonbob loves you, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 20:23,
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Sunak is reliant on everyone giving up dishing the dirt once the big dog is gone.
He runs away from interviewers who ask him about his partying, and is snappy - doesn't feel he needs to stay and respond to press.
He's probably been at some of these flipping parties. Unless the social group is beneath him?
He'll be fine as long as he doesn't have too many enemies...
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gaijintendo Regular Member, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 21:31,
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Davis? He looks like a distraction while they pick another.
Or a fall guy if Johnson gets away with it.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 14:34,
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It's true
but if you work as an enforcer your threats need to be more threatening than the alternative.
The Tory central office has very little to threaten MPs with, and after they enforced the whip on Owen Patterson they burned their powder. A lot of MPs won't go to fight for their government after that, one of the biggest self-inflicted political wounds in history. Seeing ministers just wipe out party credibility defending Johnson is that old adage of holding onto a rising balloon - better to fall off now and take the damage or see how long you can hold on for.
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 15:18,
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I think that's the threat the Tory whips used against their MPs
it's the threat they used against the public, to be honest.
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 16:04,
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I dunno, I reckon Clarkson knows exactly what this country needs to make it GREAT britain once again!
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I'm sorry
I don't watch Strictly Maxed Factor or whatever it is the plebs do on a Saturday so I have no idea who these people are.
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Fri 21 Jan 2022, 9:30,
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to a point
Much easier against individuals; I'm guessing those targeted have gone public because they think there's safety in numbers.
Speaking of which there's a lengthy semi-redacted list from a few years ago of Tory MPs and their sexual indiscretions. No idea how true it is.
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This just what whips do. So what? We need to focus on three things. Anything else is a distraction.
1. The blatant habitual law breaking of the law makers, including all SPADs and civil servants.
2. All the dishonest denials, lies and cover ups as the truth slowly emerged.
3. Why the fuck are the MET not investigating? Get Cressida Dick in front of a Home Affairs Select Committee to explain precisely and exactly why each and every single one of these parties is not being investigated. Let’s just start arresting and fining the cunts. That should get the ball rolling.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 22:09,
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Biting the hand that feeds them, don't think so.
Criminal law is generally to keep the little people in line.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Thu 20 Jan 2022, 22:28,
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