And it's not Frankie fucking Boyle. Nice one Jimmy.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 5:45, Reply)
I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 7:19, Reply)
I admit.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 20:52, Reply)
He's a comedian. His job is being edgy. If you're offended and think you should be entitled to com pen say shun you should grow up.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 7:34, Reply)
TBH that joke didn’t even register. He does say a lot of right on stuff about transphobia. Stuff that makes it clear he wouldn’t make the same joke at the expense of transsexuals rather than gypsies. But I’m sure he would have made the same joke about transsexuals earlier in his career. Social mores change. Maybe stand up comedy changes with them.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 10:34, Reply)
They wouldn't do it, mind.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 13:54, Reply)
It's a Mail Online link.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 10:38, Reply)
Say 95% of complainants. Probably.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 10:54, Reply)
They just constantly tell me I'm an appalling human being and should die horribly in fire.
Bastards.
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 18:25, Reply)
youtu.be/2OLXzO1oK2w?t=245
Lee on Carr, with Carr laugh in audience
(, Sat 5 Feb 2022, 12:11, Reply)
you get your palm red for free.
Carr should have done tasteful material like this and he wouldn't have had any issues
(, Sun 6 Feb 2022, 10:16, Reply)
would you tell it to the face of someone on the sharp end of it?
Would Jimmy Carr walk up to a Gipsy and tell them that joke, and if he did, would you say "well done, Jimmy, nice one." Or would you think he was being a racist cunt.
IMO it's a shit joke. Very lazy. Relies on shock. Punches down. He's capable of much better material.
(, Sun 6 Feb 2022, 16:53, Reply)
We all make jokes about people, family, friends, colleagues, neighbours etc that we would never say to their faces. That doesn’t make it a hate crime.
It does rely exclusively on shock. As shocking as something can be when you’re explicitly and emphatically warned you’re about to be shocked. That’s the point. He’s an edgy taboo buster, it’s what he does and how he got to where he is. People like it.
Perhaps they like it because they’re evil racists that yearn for a second holocaust. Or maybe it’s entertaining to be shocked by even the most basic bait and switch sick joke.
Netflix has stood by Chapelle so they should be ok with Carr. I think we’ll see him grovel very soon in order to keep the channel 4 gig. I think channel 4 will forgive him as they’ve pretty much built their light entertainment schedule around him for a good few years now. But nothing is certain.
(, Sun 6 Feb 2022, 20:54, Reply)
that's my main objection.
Edit, also it's about context and audience. My ex is one of the most PC people on earth and it became a running joke between us to think up the most offensive jokes we could, because we knew neither one believed any of it. It's using language to wind people up, but it only works if it's "captive." If you release it out into the wild it's different.
If you put something out on a Netflix then you lose the ability to control the context. In a venue you can build up to an offensive joke, lay careful groundwork, subvert it and turn back on the audience. Once you put something in a download it can be taken out of context. Carr knows better.
(, Mon 7 Feb 2022, 8:19, Reply)
if it's offensive, it also has to be very, very good. If you're going to go face-to-face with the object of your joke, then either make it so good they'll laugh with you, or offending them is your aim.
I have jokes about politicians, these jokes are deeply offensive, I'd love to tell them to them in person. I have been the butt of many jokes in an audience but if the comedian is good and the routine/joke is well written it'll make me laugh.
(, Mon 7 Feb 2022, 8:22, Reply)
except for albanians, who are lower than dogs
(, Mon 7 Feb 2022, 12:13, Reply)
