Battletrek Galacticstar Wars isn't happening kids, sorry.
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 2:41, Reply)
it all seems massively improbable to get here, billions of years of evolution somehow surviving in a hostile universe just so I now I can piss my time away writing internet comments
maybe I'll have another beer, too
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 7:20, Reply)
What's more important is, WHY IS EVERYONE DRINKING WHEN I'M ON ALCOHOL FREE DAYS!
More synchronisation is required.
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 14:32, Reply)
*ponders
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 13:45, Reply)
The dirty bastards.
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 19:31, Reply)
is probably a very primitive fantasy.
The post-biological descendants of humans will be much better suited to colonising the galaxy, which we will do.
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 15:27, Reply)
You're very confident about human derivatives colonising, I don't have the same faith in humans.
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 16:36, Reply)
Industrial/technological advances in 3d printing and ISRU seem to point towards Von Neumann Probes becoming a reality:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft
We need to turn to space to fix the problems of ecosystem collapse and asteroid strikes anyway. Fixing this planet will teach us how to fix others....
Once those issues are solved it's kind of inevitable that we will have to spread out somehow, unless we (or whichever species is dominant by then) decide it's best to all die when the sun expands.
I think it would be a terrible thing to let a good galaxy go to waste. If we are the first, or even the only life in our observable bubble then we are obliged to make use of it and to spread life and intelligence as far as we can. I can't think of a valid moral opposition to the idea.
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 17:47, Reply)
That's a valid moral point, then there is the possibility of carrying microbes to the other planets' inhabitants.
I suppose it might be possible for a very tiny number of people using technologies as yet unknown, far into the future.
Whether non-biological humans could actually 'be' human is a discussion in itself.
I tried optimism once, it was awful.
(, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 23:27, Reply)
I think I am a biological machine, a meat robot, if you will. There's no such thing as the soul, nothing at all spiritually significant about being human rather than a sponge or a pineapple.
I think if I were to replace every part of you with equivalent or superior technology, piece by piece, even braincell by braincell, there would not come a point when you'd consider yourself less than human.
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 0:25, Reply)
I don't understand what is meant by a soul really, it's part of some old religious superstition.
The awareness of one's body through multiple networks (eg. More serotonin is present in the digestive system than in the brain), proprioception etc would have to be modelled.
An exact replica in metal is a fantasy.
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 5:15, Reply)
or a pacemaker, or a titanium or plastic hip, make you less human?
If you use a telescope, or read a dictionary, or use a device to access information, does that make you less human?
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 14:42, Reply)
As far as we know our species is the only one to contemplate the idea of an immortal soul. We're probably wrong, but that still makes us special compared to other animals.
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 7:10, Reply)
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 14:19, Reply)
Because it's much easier than convincing humans to eat less meat, consume less and stop reproducing?
Why would you wish to export this cancerous parasitic form of life beyond this planet?
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 10:03, Reply)
Without space technology we would not understand the predicament our ecosystem is in.
climate.nasa.gov/
Turning to space to fix the ecosystem means turning to space based observation of this planet's atmosphere compared to others, and acting on that knowledge.
It also means employing more technology to alleviate the effects of anthropomorphic climate change (sun shields, mirrors, moving polluting industry off-world, etc.).
You're not going to convince a species to stop reproducing, certainly not humans, and if you think of yourself as a cancer then I feel sorry for you.
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 14:29, Reply)
The biggest obstacle is human behaviour. Developing those fancy technologies you mentioned will take too long and might lead to risk compensation. In any case, existing nature-based solutions are cheaper and less likely to have unexpected consequences.
Well, generation Alpha or Beta might produce an antinatalist Greta so there's still hope.
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 21:15, Reply)
or to put it less controversially, evidence collected from weather and climate monitoring satellites confirms and falsifies purely ground/ocean based data, and reveals information that would otherwise go unrecorded. Evidence recorded from other planets in our solar system teaches us about our planet.
We have learned a great deal about our climate from space based observation, and we will continue to do so.
It's all very well saying a lentil weaving alternative would be better, but in the meantime we urgently need to avert the catastrophe we've been creating for the past couple of centuries. Vegan drum circles and yogic flying will not work.
(, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 22:14, Reply)
There is a vast amount we don't know about how the natural world works. Why not fix that as well as exploring tech solutions which may cost so much as to be only useful for very small percentage of people.
Don't mix up superstitious or romantic free range yoghurt weaving with actual biology/chemistry/medicine etc.
The societies that gave rise to the amazing data collection also caused the problems.
(, Thu 14 Jul 2022, 2:21, Reply)