A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson - SOME MORE NEWS
I know some of you can't stand it, but this one is fairly well done.
"Hi, woke moralists! In today’s episode, we take a look at Jordan Peterson through the lens of Jungian archetypes – just as he would want – and explore some of his other ideas about climate change, gender, marriage, hierarchies, and lobsters. Don’t check the timecode!"
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 17:45,
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b3ta.com/links/1590480
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 20:56,
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3hrs just to say JP is a prick
I could have done that in 10 seconds
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$$ ✅, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 20:46,
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I think it's a worthwhile video
because he has many followers, some of whom may not realise that he's an idiotic, Nazi sympathising, messianic-delusions-having, pseudo-intellectual prick.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 20:56,
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Never thought I'd see the day that I was citing a Guardian article, but:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/22/what-the-left-gets-wrong-about-jordan-peterson
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Pretty shitty article from a pretty shitty newspaper.
'Don't call out Nazis because it encourages more Nazism' and 'he's really not that bad' seems to be the crux of it.
See the last decade's rise of nationalism, exceptionalism, jingoism, isolationism, populism, racism, and actual fascism, for why that approach is complete bollocks.
Fuck Nazis, and if you listen to what he actually tries to say you'd agree that he is that bad.
We are not going to be able to reach radicalised people by pandering to the same irrational fears and delusions pushed upon them by the cunts who exploit them for power and profit. I think we can only show how it's been done to them and let them decide what to do about it. A large part of that is exposing these influential fraudsters.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 22:10,
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So, you're saying that by actually forgetting about absolute fuckwits like Katie Hopkins, we've actually done her a favour
And what we should really be doing is making sure that these types get as much exposure as possible? Righto then.
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... No, I think you entirely substituted what I said for something you'd prefer to argue against...
..Which is not a very honest or productive use of your intellect.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 23:39,
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That's a pretty shitty apologistic article...
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Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 22:30,
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Does he have many folllowers on here then?
I ask as there only seems to be one person obsessed by him on this board.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 21:43,
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Dunno, but it's an interesting video that I thought I'd share on b3ta.com/links
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 22:11,
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If he wasn't controversial those demographics wouldn't follow him.
Apart from being a famous psychologist with cash rolling in, he might be communicating with people who prefer an authoritarian viewpoint (roughly 30% of the population). I don't know a great deal about his videos.
Cheer yourself up with Alex Jones getting caught out, I did
m.youtube.com/watch?v=IC9RiRUF21A
Ahahaha just in
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62427918
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 22:46,
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I'm less critical of him
i'm in agreement with on him against equating questioning of the proposition that "gender is defined entirely by identity choice" as hate speech, that seem to be gaining increasing currency outside of the more loopy sociology departments, and in some other points as well. I try not let my personal feeling about him , that he's deliberately picking provocative positions to build a profile on the right rather than for academically honest reasons, or a prick a la katie hopkins, stop me judging each of his arguments on its merits. but it can be tough with his smug canadian face
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 2:30,
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3 fucking hours?
Wow, glad I didn't give it even 2 minutes
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 0:38,
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I've seen him a few times on these panel type shows without seeking him out
My view is that he make some reasonable points, though not necessarily argument winning ones, and some poor points. He's obviously an intelligent guy with an academic teaching background able to articulate his views cogently. Though he does fall back on his psych research when cornered, which is the most pissweak of all the sciences.
My main beef with hm is that they often seem to pair him with these histrionic non-academic doofuses, like some boxer who they set up against chumps. People who seem incapable of countering or even seeing when Peterson makes poor argument, and ones who go too far with their own, which Peterson, being an academic, is able to easily pick off.
Or they have him arguing against some proposition that few people, at least few reasonable people, are making.
So I think he picks easy fights, deliberately so, to build his profile among people who like watching videos with titles that start "peterson detroys...."
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 4 Aug 2022, 23:47,
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saw the first bit of brb's vid, though Im not going to wade through a 2 hour critical analysis of the fucker
some fair examples of "arguing against some proposition that few people, at least few reasonable people, are making". it's not exactly strawmanning, but it's close.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 2:13,
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My view is that he's like Elon Musk
Musk has done some wonderful things with the cars and rockets and so forth, unfortunately he's an utter dick.
Peterson has made some good points and has made more widely known some valid research which runs counter to what is basically an emotion driven agenda almost entirely disconnected from reality.
Unfortunately, he's also an utter dick, can't see when he's glaringly wrong, and when presented with a question he doesn't like the answer to, he'll waffle on about obscure psychological bollocks, or religion, until the time for that question is almost up and, then he'll end by questioning the person who asked the original question as to what they *exactly* mean by using a particular phrase at which point the host moves the discussion on.
Some of his recorded lectures are not bad where he's actually teaching students in some college somewhere, the rest of it is patchy at best.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 0:37,
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Can you actually quote one his good points in full?
It's all subjective, obviously.
I once heard him argue against the existence of objective reality. The guy is obviously educated beyond his means of understanding.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 13:02,
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Probably
but I'm not going to because I'm not getting drawn into a conversation about him. I've said what I think of him.
Regarding objective reality though, Einstein proved there isn't such a thing, with general relativity. Two observers can view the same event and disagree about the facts of it, and both be right.
I'll talk about physics if you like, I quite like that. Black holes are completely mental.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 23:22,
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Objective reality might not make much sense to us, but it's there.
An observer's subjective perception does not define (or, being charitable, fully define) objective reality. If you don't sense or measure the presence of the lion, it can still eat you, and if you don't know there's no ground beneath your feet, you will still fall down the hole.
There must be an objective reality even if everything we perceive is actually a hologram, a simulation, or the dream of a sleeping dragon or whatever.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 23:52,
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'Objective reality' in the absolute sense is really is dependent on where the observer is etc.
On an individual level, the exact experience of falling down the hole will differ. Yes, they will still fall down the hole, with different results according to which individual falls, size, health, athleticism and many other factors.
Yes, in a simplified way there is an accepted 'objective reality', it's just different for everybody.
In the lion case, it might depend on who is spotted by the lion.
Brian Blessed - the lion covers it's ears and runs.
David Attenborough - lion asks for autograph.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sat 6 Aug 2022, 3:06,
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plenty of physicists claim thersis no objective reality right up to the point you punch them in face
then shit gets real
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 6 Aug 2022, 7:51,
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I think you must have mixed up the definitions of subjective and objective in your head.
Objective reality is not different for everybody. What's unique to each observer is their own (subjective) perception.
Objective reality is not dependant on the observations of an ignorant life form that can't even observe or directly measure 99.999...% of their observable patch of universe. A black hole 28 billion light years away (which has no causal relationship with our observable bubble) is not even slightly affected by the musings of a flea.
Your subjective experience of reality has to be a subset of objective reality, that is to say, whatever you experience has a foundation in something greater, consisting of processes and states of being that we don't yet, or cannot understand.
Humans did not know about germs, bacteria, spores, etc, for a very long time. But our ignorance of these micro-organisms did nothing to protect us from them. The dinosaurs presumably knew nothing of asteroids, and their ignorance did not protect them. Our planet 'knows' nothing of gravity or mathematics, yet is bound by them.
Objective truths apply to you even if you are ignorant of them, even if your brain is incapable of acknowledging them, even if you have no brain.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Sat 6 Aug 2022, 14:04,
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Peterson has given nothing new to the world
it's just that so many people are so god-awful stupid that they think he is giving them previously unknown views and truths. he is just stating the obvious. but if you are stupid, you think wow omg he is so deep and smart.
this doesn't mean I'm saying Peterson is shit. it is people who are shit.
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Woodkovsky ☹️➝🚻➝🚽➝😣➝💩➝🧻➝😁, Fri 5 Aug 2022, 2:29,
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