I dare say a lot of the women voters might be prepared to put aside their racism if the other side push their no abortion, no divorce, no contraception shtick, but there are always a few nutters and God-botherers who honestly believe they ought to be treated as chattel. Time will tell.
VP Pete is pretty much a non-starter, which is a shame but there you go. At least he can carry on playing with his 1:1 scale train set if the Dems do win again.
It remains to be seen if Trump will be able to change his campaign; he’s been banging on about Biden for so long I suspect he’ll start making similar gaffes when he forgets who he’s actually campaigning against. I’ve no doubt whatsoever that there will be oodles of casual misogyny in what passes for his speeches, though of course there will be plenty of voters for whom this is a positive thing.
It’ll all come down to persuading a few tens of thousands of swing voters in a handful of states. Again.
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jonbob loves you, Sun 21 Jul 2024, 22:33,
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I think there's a bit more to it than the identity/race/gender/sexual orientation of the party leaders
I reckon there's a lot of fear among middle class and working class americans. Fear about their prosperity, jobs, climate change, housing, AI, cost of living etc. They went with Biden at the last election mostly because he seemed to offer a safer alternative. Trump's modus opendi is to stoke those fears while making overblown claims that he'll fix everything.
As you said, it's about reassuring those crucial swing voters that they're going to be better off, or at least not worse off. So I don't think it's as much about identity or character or even trumps crimes, it's about finding someone articulate enough to convince those fearful swing voters, something Biden was no longer capable of. To focus alone on the fact that trump's an asshole who does asshole things is a mistake, as would playing the identity 'first woman president' thing as their main angle, it didn't cut through enough with Hilary.
IMHO they should be stoking fears of the chaos Trump brings, reminding people of the chaos of his first term as their main focus. A million dead, record debt, rising unemployment, culminating in an attack on the whitehouse, while asking them "do you want to go through that again, do you want to risk your job?" That way even his 'miracle' assassination miss plays into that narrative, it's just more chaos. At least some of the downturn was just bad luck to be president during covid, but politics is a dirty game.
I think Buttgieg is the most articulate of the contenders, and to me that outweighs whatever negative his sexual orientation might bring for the VP pick, they're not trying to win over maga christian conservatives, but worried working people in swing states. Whether they will pick him or not is another matter, as a party they have plenty of dysfunction of their own. That's my 2p
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 22 Jul 2024, 1:46,
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That's all well and good but...
THREE WORD CHANT!
THREE WORD CHANT!
THREE WORD CHANT!
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jonbob loves you, Mon 22 Jul 2024, 3:39,
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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 22 Jul 2024, 4:05,
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I prefer your 3 word chant
to the many words you replied to. I like a good 3 word chant more than having to think about something.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Mon 22 Jul 2024, 11:14,
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A thoughtful analysis
Which is why Buttgieg won't work, sadly most people vote with their feelings which is how we got Trumpf in the first place. I'm guessing Trumpf would be shouting 'Jesus hates gays' by the end of the week.
From where I am the US looks pretty theocratic, which would be weaponised by Trumpf.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Tue 23 Jul 2024, 11:51,
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Perhaps the democrats have been reading my links posts
which is a worry. her first stump speech and it's "freedom or chaos", though they should try and tie that chaos to losing your job in clear messaging if they want to follow the full cumquat program™.
www.afr.com/world/north-america/choice-between-freedom-and-chaos-harris-rallies-swing-state-crowd-20240724-p5jw23
I don't know, you're probably right about buttgeig, though I think the average american is actually a bit less concerned about identity, race and sex orientation (apart from trannies) than people tend to assume.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 24 Jul 2024, 4:55,
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