Well
to be fair, the news is kind of based on the information we have at any given time. Up until we found out about full-fat noncing it wasn't. We could have been looking at another Cliff Richard scenario here, but it's clear that now the cops have managed to crack the password on his phone and WOAH!!!!
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to be fair, the news is kind of based on the information we have at any given time. Up until we found out about full-fat noncing it wasn't. We could have been looking at another Cliff Richard scenario here, but it's clear that now the cops have managed to crack the password on his phone and WOAH!!!!
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Pedalling the inane fallacy that the criticism is homophobic.
You’ll be defending that Dutch volleyball player next. He is a role model! He did a bit of time and look how he turned his life around! So courageous!
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You’ll be defending that Dutch volleyball player next. He is a role model! He did a bit of time and look how he turned his life around! So courageous!
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I read about that and thought oh I'm sure it was one of those he's 17 and she's 15 kind of things
But no it very much wasn't.
Nb the "and a woman" was a hots shots reference.
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But no it very much wasn't.
Nb the "and a woman" was a hots shots reference.
( , Tue 30 Jul 2024, 15:13, Share, Reply)
Oh, sorry for missing the Hot Shots reference. Whatever happened to Charlie Sheen?
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BBC had a helicopter encircling Cliff's mansion
it was fucking obvious he was a .... no .... hang on. You need actual evidence of a crime not just. Well. I mean - Cliff Richard, he was the top of everybody's Yewtree list wasn't he?
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it was fucking obvious he was a .... no .... hang on. You need actual evidence of a crime not just. Well. I mean - Cliff Richard, he was the top of everybody's Yewtree list wasn't he?
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They had zilch on Cliff.
On Edwards, maybe you missed this, he was 59 and paid a teenager thirty fucking k for dirty pics. I wonder if he was getting anything else for thirty fucking k. Thirty fucking k. Weird, no? No, apparently not, we had no idea. It’s like a bolt from the blue. Completely shocking! Never saw this coming! No sireee!
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On Edwards, maybe you missed this, he was 59 and paid a teenager thirty fucking k for dirty pics. I wonder if he was getting anything else for thirty fucking k. Thirty fucking k. Weird, no? No, apparently not, we had no idea. It’s like a bolt from the blue. Completely shocking! Never saw this coming! No sireee!
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I suspect that £30k to Huw Edwards isn't quite the same as £30k to us plebs.
His base salary was £480k last year and I don't suspect he was living from payslip to payslip. It would be the equivalent of somebody on an average income paying somebody about three to four grand.
I don't really feel that anybody calling him a nonce before this development should feel particularly vindicated. It still reeks of homophobia. Fair play to anyone that wants to call him a nonce now, though.
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His base salary was £480k last year and I don't suspect he was living from payslip to payslip. It would be the equivalent of somebody on an average income paying somebody about three to four grand.
I don't really feel that anybody calling him a nonce before this development should feel particularly vindicated. It still reeks of homophobia. Fair play to anyone that wants to call him a nonce now, though.
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Exactly
just hold off on nonce-calling until there's evidence of noncing and not just well-shady behaviour.
( , Tue 30 Jul 2024, 16:17, Share, Reply)
just hold off on nonce-calling until there's evidence of noncing and not just well-shady behaviour.
( , Tue 30 Jul 2024, 16:17, Share, Reply)
Well it’s a question of semantics then.
To me, a forty year old going out with a seventeen year old is 100% nonce. Is he a paedophile? Not in the eyes of the law, no, so I’d be very careful about calling him one. However as far as I’m concerned, if he’ll fuck a seventeen year old, he’d be only too happy to fuck a fifteen year old. Sexual attraction isn’t based on someone’s date of birth, it’s based on how they look and act. If you like them very young you’re a nonce, if you like them so young they’re underage, you’re a paedophile. Nonces are all too often paedophiles.
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To me, a forty year old going out with a seventeen year old is 100% nonce. Is he a paedophile? Not in the eyes of the law, no, so I’d be very careful about calling him one. However as far as I’m concerned, if he’ll fuck a seventeen year old, he’d be only too happy to fuck a fifteen year old. Sexual attraction isn’t based on someone’s date of birth, it’s based on how they look and act. If you like them very young you’re a nonce, if you like them so young they’re underage, you’re a paedophile. Nonces are all too often paedophiles.
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Technically, you aren't a paedophile if you're fucking 15 year olds either.
Not that it in any way makes it okay, but categorising somebody who likes fucking underage adolescents in the same category as somebody who likes fucking literal infants feels wrong to me. They're both bad, but one is clearly much, much worse.
I'd argue that an adult who has a penchant for adolescents isn't necessarily a psychopath, an adult who has a penchant for toddlers almost certainly is - you'd have to be, surely.
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Not that it in any way makes it okay, but categorising somebody who likes fucking underage adolescents in the same category as somebody who likes fucking literal infants feels wrong to me. They're both bad, but one is clearly much, much worse.
I'd argue that an adult who has a penchant for adolescents isn't necessarily a psychopath, an adult who has a penchant for toddlers almost certainly is - you'd have to be, surely.
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There are definitely nonces who are worse than other nonces.
Just as some rapists are worse than other rapists. Some 15 year olds are, if you’ll excuse the idiom, ripe for plucking, some aren’t. In this country a line has been drawn at 16. Technically you’re wrong, as it is the law that imposes the technicalities.
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Just as some rapists are worse than other rapists. Some 15 year olds are, if you’ll excuse the idiom, ripe for plucking, some aren’t. In this country a line has been drawn at 16. Technically you’re wrong, as it is the law that imposes the technicalities.
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"Some 15 year olds are, if you’ll excuse the idiom, ripe for plucking, some aren’t."
~'Prufrock' (a nonce), Tue 30 Jul 2024.
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~'Prufrock' (a nonce), Tue 30 Jul 2024.
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Hmmm, even on his absurd salary for reading an autocue, 30k is still a lot of dosh.
I might tend to agree if it was only 3k, but it was ten times that. Even a millionaire would consider 30k a major outgoing, 3k not so much. As rich as he is, that’d be one fancy holiday for two. Whereas luxury holidays for two on a 3k budget? Good luck with that.
As for the homophobia, bullshit, total bullshit. The fact it was a boy is neither here or there. Dutch volleyball nonce’s entirely justified vilification proves that, Paula Radcliffe aside.
( , Tue 30 Jul 2024, 16:46, Share, Reply)
I might tend to agree if it was only 3k, but it was ten times that. Even a millionaire would consider 30k a major outgoing, 3k not so much. As rich as he is, that’d be one fancy holiday for two. Whereas luxury holidays for two on a 3k budget? Good luck with that.
As for the homophobia, bullshit, total bullshit. The fact it was a boy is neither here or there. Dutch volleyball nonce’s entirely justified vilification proves that, Paula Radcliffe aside.
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