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This is a link post Charlie Brooker does kids TV
Very amusing opening few mins
Then the usual sarky attacks and comments, until...

...the last few mins...

...whereupon I balled my eyes out...

A fitting tribute to Mr Postgate.

Enjoy!

(NB - will be removed from iplayer tomorrow (Tues) at midnight, so move quick! (or find it elsewhere)
(, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 19:37, Reply)
This is a normal post i thought the last few minutes were rediculously hypocritical
...and all this Postgate worship is reminiscent of the death of diana... i couldn't give a fuck! i hated the clangers AND ivor the engine.

/rant

:)
(, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 20:13, Reply)
This is a normal post what an angry young man you are
you need to go home and rethink your life
(, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 20:19, Reply)
This is a normal post Hypocritical?
Why?

90% of children's TV is absolute tosh. Brooker's quite right, it's all explosions and ridiculous songs about explosions and if it's aimed at girls, dancing or make-up. The Clangers, Bagpuss, Ivor the Engine (and the rest) are calming, enthralling gems that still outshine the rest of the rubbish out there. There's nothing pretentious about them, they weren't shows based on toys based on theme park rides.

And I hate to sound like a snob, but I find it hard to trust someone's judgment when they spell ridiculous with an e, and can't capitalise.

/End rant.
(, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 21:45, Reply)
This is a normal post "calming, enthralling gems that still outshine the rest of the rubbish out there."
...but thats the opinion of an adult... not a 7 year old.

When i was that age i couldn't give a toss about how calming/educational/culturally relevant/artistically significant kids tv shows were... i wanted to see cool stuff, funny stuff, wacky stuff etc... the clangers, button moon, ivor t'engine, BLUE FUCKIN PETER etc. - all a pile of middle class, middle aged wanky ideals of what children should watch, NOT what kids wanted to watch... hence the fact that the modern, market driven kids tv landscape of today tends to go for bright, engaging shows which they know kids will love and watch, hopefully, over competing networks.

BTW you don't sound like a snob, just a bit of a knob (or was that a misspelling? :p), also what about people who start a sentence/paragraph with the word and?

After all, the concious decision to not bother pressing the shift key and the misspelling of a single word while posting on an informal message board show far less disregard, or understanding, of grammar than someone who doesn't know how to start a fuckin sentence properly!

:)
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 0:11, Reply)
This is a normal post TWAT

(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 0:22, Reply)
This is a normal post haha
dont cry
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 0:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha
Look up Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad, widely regarded as one of the best novels ever written.You probably won't bother so I'll tell you about it.
The very first word in that fine piece of literature is "And..."

I believe the popular internet slang for this situation you have created for yourself is 'Fail'
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 1:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know what that means
but OK
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 1:29, Reply)
This is a normal post fail? erm.... no
I wasn't the one throwing around pedantic accusations of bad grammar... i was simply pointing out how rEdiculous that kinda thing is (maybe you didn't spot the smileys?). besides, as you pointed out... "the very first word", used to depict the continuation of something pre-dating the contents of the first page of a novel isn't exactly the best analogy now is it.

I'm sure I'd also be able to find literary works containing purposeful misspellings and/or a lack of capitalisation (e.e. cummings anyone?), that wouldn't make it grammatically correct in general use though would it?

If you could find a book on grammar and it's correct usage, which used and as the first word of a sentence, then i'd be impressed.

:)
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 1:57, Reply)
This is a normal post It doesn't matter how many times you misspell a word,
or if you decide to deploy capital letters midway through to emphasise your error, if you're wrong, you're wrong. Besides, it would be more impressive if you could make use of your apostrophes correctly.
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 2:36, Reply)
This is a normal post I can't honestly see what wrong with my apostrophes...
but then again, as shown by my poor spelling wot i dun, im shit at writing and shit.
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 4:06, Reply)
This is a normal post How the fuck are clangers, button moon, and ivor the engine "middle class"?
Two of them are on another planet for fuck's sake.

Anyway my 8 year old brother loves them and I loved them when I was his age. Just because adults find them awesome and creative and fun doesn't mean kids don't too. Go back to your media studies course.
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 1:32, Reply)
This is a normal post diddums
someone doesn't agree with your world view...

you sound like a 10 year old girl, as in "how dare you say that [insert boyband] are crap... I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOOOOOU... GO BACK TO YOUR MEDIA STUDIES COURSE YOU WAR CRIMINAL!!! *sniff* *cry*"
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 2:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Um,
not really. You do, though. Or maybe just someone who likes to hide behind straw men-type exaggerations. And, um, you smell. Of wee. Smelly wee.
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 3:29, Reply)
This is a normal post I DON'T SMELL OF WEE!
I was told it's more of a vinegar smell
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 3:55, Reply)
This is a normal post You smell of wee
And you live in a tree
With a bum for a knee
Keep away from me
Tum diddly dee.

Think I'll go to bed.
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 4:12, Reply)
This is a normal post fuck me
this is why I don't post stuff here sometimes
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 20:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Good shit indeed
The mouse song at the end was a pleasure .... In the night garden was as freaky as always!
(, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 20:17, Reply)
This is a normal post Even the ninky nonk and the pinky ponk?

(, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 20:26, Reply)
This is a normal post I thought it was a beautiful tribute.
I've never seen any of The Clangers but I remember Bagpuss as if it was yesterday. And that's almost 30 years ago. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can only remember the chocolate biscuit making dolls house episode from Bagpuss. I too shed a tear.
(, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 21:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Masterful use of doublethink in children's telly, I reckon
So the mice are claiming to be making chocolate biscuits (Viscounts, no less. Classy!) out of breadcrumbs and butterbeans. The only mystery being that they keep on whipping them away before Yaffle can grab one and scoff it.

However, the moment he looks round the back and discovers that it's a sham - that they're just pushing the same biscuit out of the chute every time, they instantly turn to the opposite view of 'Of course you can't make chocolate biscuits out of breadcrumbs and butterbeans'.

Genius.

That and at the end of something of an existential crisis for Yaffle, who starts to doubt that all the work they do with The Things That People Had Forgotten was worth it. He expresses his crisis in faith to the mice, and is instantly dismissed by the narrator, who says 'Well anyway. They pushed the thing to the front of the shop etc.' and then they all went to sleep.

Mint.
(, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 0:03, Reply)