it didn't exist in the mid '90s. I recall coming across something sorta similar in about 2000 (Goth looking guys dancing at Rave venues) but I wasn't aware of any kind of really established Cyber Goth scene until at least 2003. All the bands who create the music seemed to start around about the millenium, so it's rather hard to imagine there was a scene before that!
Again, any examples?
(, Sun 22 Feb 2009, 14:37, Reply)
The cybergoth clothing shop in Camden has been there since late nineties at least.
(, Sun 22 Feb 2009, 15:12, Reply)
I've known and used Cyber Goth for bloody ages, and the shop Cyberdog has been around since the early nineties, where I'm sure I've used the term.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdog_(shop)
My friends and I used to claim we started the whole yo-yo fad 12 years ago, because on a whim we decided to all buy some, and a month later, it was the biggest thing in the world.
So yes, plenty of people have these delusions sometimes. It's ok!
(, Sun 22 Feb 2009, 19:37, Reply)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybergoth
And here's a reference to car-crash tv from 2004
archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2004/07/18/story678206179.asp
(, Sun 22 Feb 2009, 15:12, Reply)
"Now Saturday Zoo is off the ground, he feels confident enough to push it to extremes. He knows that millions of TV fans - himself included - love the tackiness of this so-called 'car-crash television', although he's not entirely sure why.",
- Jacqui Deevoy, Daily Mail, January 16, 1993
""It's definitely not safe walking around looking the way I do," said Jackal, 31, one of the co-founders of House of Usher and Temple and current member of the cyberGoth band Anguish."
- April Lynch, The San Francisco Chronicle, February 5, 1999
(, Sun 22 Feb 2009, 15:37, Reply)
pretty conclusive. Can I use this opportunity to coin the phrase 'car crash post'?
(, Sun 22 Feb 2009, 18:15, Reply)
of course even tho you just invented it that won't necessarily mean you were the first to use it, but if you then find it's later become a very popular phrase you may have still helped popularise it.
And BTW I've checked and it's not yet defined so go for it! ;)
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 15:59, Reply)