Err
If my child was prevented from swimming lessons because of the risk of hurting the sentiments of religious morons who believe in sky fairies, I would be absolutely outraged
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:13,
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Maybe.
But since it's never happened in this country, you've little to worry about.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:23,
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I wonder
"Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full participation"
what if my child was in the minority here and prevented from attending swimming lessons during their Ramadan? Or even another religious faith with no observance to Ramadan?
That entire report is complete bollocks
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:32,
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Hmmm...
But there's a difference between being prevented from having swimming lessons, and being prevented at a particular time. And if there's a lot of people in the class who would reject lessons at that time, it may be better - in the sense of less faff - just to bite the bullet.
I take your point, and I'm generally pretty sympathetic - but I'm not wholly convinced that it's all that big an issue.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:35,
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To be honest
It's silly little reports like this which just float down gently into the hands of cunts like the Daily Mail or the Sun
Why give them the ammunition?
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:42,
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This ^
When we were at school, we did swimming for probably about 1/4 of the year? So if swimming during Ramadan is going to mean finding something else for a large portion of the class to do, wouldn't it just be easier to schedule swimming for some other time?
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Incredibly Ordinary Dave needs your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:44,
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Fuck that
My original point:
www.b3ta.com/links/495996
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:55,
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But they will go swimming, just not at that time.
I'm guessing other schools are the same as mine was, and swimming doesn't happen all year 'round anyway, so what difference does it make if it takes place at some other time of the year?
If they don't want to go swimming during Ramadan, you're not going to change their minds, and short of throwing them into the swimming pool, that means you'll have to have another teacher sit with them and find them something else to do, which is a pain in the bum, so why not just have the swimming in some other month?
If kids really want to go swimming during Ramadan, there are plenty of "Kids swim free" type schemes around.
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Incredibly Ordinary Dave needs your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:02,
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But it wouldn't stop them from swimming.
And it's got nothing to do with hurting their sentiments.
That's what I'm trying to say. =/
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Incredibly Ordinary Dave needs your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:25,
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*Sigh*
For fuck's sake geezer
"I'm guessing other schools are the same as mine was, and swimming doesn't happen all year 'round anyway, so what difference does it make if it takes place at some other time of the year?
If they don't want to go swimming during Ramadan, you're not going to change their minds, and short of throwing them into the swimming pool, that means you'll have to have another teacher sit with them and find them something else to do, which is a pain in the bum, so why not just have the swimming in some other month?"
I don't want any disruption to my child's schedule due to religious belief; why is this so hard to grasp?
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:37,
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It might teach the non-Muslim kids acceptance of other peoples way of lives
Which is no bad thing
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applehead herp derp, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:51,
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i agree
this is a document prepared by:
"EMAS: The Ethnic Minority Achievement Service"
that then states:
"Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling
swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full
participation."
so then the other kids are the minority but their rights are sidelined and the musilim kids rigths come first.
ok.
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Avast is still alive!!!!, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:54,
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I doubt that it would ever happen...
Why?
Because Ramadan lasts for 1 month, usually throughout August and sometimes the first week of September.
This BARELY overlaps with the first week of the new school year.
Ergo, much ado about FUCK ALL!
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:32,
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from Enzymes link below
the document states that:
"The Islamic calendar is based on a lunar cycle, therefore, the month of Ramadan
begins 10 or 11 days earlier each year on the Gregorian calendar; hence it takes
Ramadan about 33 years to move through the seasons from January to December"
thus is can be in any month.
www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/Published/C00000117/M00003568/AI00022934/$Ramadan1doc.docA.ps.pdf
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Avast is still alive!!!!, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:01,
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