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This is a normal post Interesting idea though.
Though it seems like an act of desperation.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:23, Reply)
This is a normal post blimey...can't do anything right can they...
bands dont support downloads = you money grabbing evil cunts

bands allowing downloads and free-choice = desperate bastards.
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:31, Reply)
This is a normal post it's all about streaming
as i see it

or buying directly from the bands themselves

i dunno
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:45, Reply)
This is a normal post but did you see the graph?
to make 0.000000pence a month the artist has to get 4 million plays of thier song....


how is that gonna work?
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:54, Reply)
This is a normal post What you're forgetting is that it's still early days for streaming music services, especially Spotify.
Which is actually being blocked in the US at the moment by Apple, I believe.

Once it's more popular the revenues will go up.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:10, Reply)
This is a normal post what your forgetting is
that its a minority of people in the world who have computers and access to high speed internet connections...
untill that gap is bridged we need a recording industry... and the millions of people that work in it (not just ridiculously wealthy execs but normal people too) need a job.
if the industry goes tits up, then the facilities to accommodate the industry become damaged, and voila, less access to lots of music...its annoying that the execs are fucking it up...but the old men in suits tend to do that...
and what if your country bans or restricts the internet...they can also restrict the type of music you consume.
just a thought really.
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Why desperation?
It's clever. Interaction is what's missing from mp3s. I'd never buy one because I like my music to be tactile. This is bringing some of that back.
 (I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:31, Reply)
This is a normal post A part of me misses physical objects
ask a lot of folks what they're listening to on their iPod or equivalent and they have to look to see what it's called and have NO idea what it would look like if they had to identify the album in a line up of CDs, I've got stuff on mine that if I put it on random I swear I've never heard it before in my life, but was probably just downloaded on a whim one evening as it was a one-click freebie, it's all become a bit ethereal and disposable hasn't it?

I miss cleverness in the physical object that I could explore, some folks like Pink Floyd and Radiohead and such used to do all sorts of clever tricks that made the music almost insignificant to the medium itself and the packaging surrounding it, and it gave the band a sort of folklore beyond their image onscreen or facts in mags etc and was just a teensy bit magical.

Bit of a dead art now really...
 (I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Yep
My ultimates are Lemon Jelly. Everything they've ever released is BEAUTIFUL. Just such a joy to own.
 (I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:44, Reply)
This is a normal post I still have that live album Pulse by Pink Floyd someplace
have to wonder if I dug it out if it would still have one... ?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_(Pink_Floyd_album)#LED_packaging
 (I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:56, Reply)
This is a normal post All I can think of now is a sad glowing record in a dark corner of the loft
It;s made me quite heartbroken
 (I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Aw!
In a box in the celler as it happens, still pull 'em out now and then for a breath of fresh air! ;)
 (I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:39, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this^
I got my first mp3 album a couple of weeks back (it's not available as a physical album), and I was really dissapointed that there were sleeve notes.

Just the tracks and a JPG of the front cover.

It sounds daft, but I felt a bit cheated.
 (I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:51, Reply)
This is a normal post How is it tactile? It's still digital, albeit with a bit of interactivity.
But I know what you mean, if you really like something you want to own it in a 'special' way and you might want to have a physical product. I suppose this lets you put your 'stamp' on it.

That said the digital format for music is here to stay and will completely replace the CD if it hasn't already.

As well doing the same for books and games.
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This is a normal post I sincerely hope you're wrong there
Nothing will ever replace the physical object in my eyes, especially not digital books. Books are ACE. This is also why vinyl still has such a dedicated fanbase
 (I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:54, Reply)
This is a normal post I love books too, but I'm afraid it's inevitable.

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Nah
If that was the case there'd be no more collectors. And you'll NEVER stop collectors, especially not with this generation. Everyone between the ages of 15 and 40 grew up with collectables as toys. It's a concept that's deeply ingrained in them, and it'll never go. The only reason it's in a glut right now is because folks don't have as much disposable income. Sort the economy out and people will start buying things again.

/Did her dissertation on this
 (I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:59, Reply)
This is a normal post What I'm saying is, something like the Kindle and the sale of digital books will grow exponentially.
I'll be very surprised if fifty years from now books will be printed on paper and sold in a shop.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:03, Reply)
This is a normal post Digital media is far too unreliable IMO
It's unfeasible to think all reference books will be in digital form. What about academia? Libraries? Hard copies of company reports, data and other reference?

The digital age is great but it's just unfeasible for everything to go digital
 (I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Imagine if you could scan the pages of a book without opening it.
Technology will speed the process up, everything is going in the cloud, I feel it in my loins.

I'm not happy about it, as we've recently seen how bad data security is.

Well, there go.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Take your tinfoil hat off and see my logic

(I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:24, Reply)
This is a normal post All books will go digital given enough time.
*chews tinfoil*
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:29, Reply)
This is a normal post a book can always be read
nasa recently had to THROW away data because there where no system to read it...can you see the fallible-ness of the digital format now?
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Nasa now, I've mentioned data security up there^
You seem somewhat confused, I'm not saying that the digital format is perfect, I'm saying it's inevitable.

Shirley that's obvious?
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Do we still writet with our hands
because we have had typewriters for a while.

do we still walk with our feet, because we have had mechanised transport for a while.

do we still print out documents rather than read them on perfectly good screens?

now tell me again how digital media will replace everything...

yes digital media will become more common... but humans are a funny bunch...just cos something makes a lot of sense on paper (sic/lol) doesn't mean EVERYONE will adopt it.

but for the masses...probably.
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:42, Reply)
This is a normal post yeah cos you cant buy vinyl anywhere anymore
oh hang on....
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:55, Reply)
This is a normal post You seem to have misread what I typed, I didn't mention vinyl or its availability.
All I am saying is that the digital format for music, books and games will outsell the physical versions given enough time and eventually replace them.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:07, Reply)
This is a normal post but there aren't any formats which have been totally replaced
people who like buying cd's like those who want to buy vinyl will still be able too, they will just have to go out their way a bit more...
the only real dead formats are rival formats, like betamax minidisc or laserdisc, formats which arrived at the same time as other formats...
i still believe that todays vinyl junkies, will be joined by tape junkies, and cd junkies, and eventually mp3 junkies....
i think we are probably arguing about a pedantic interpretation of a word...which is usually my form.
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:10, Reply)