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they've always just said it's wrong, it's what they've been taught and believe.
But I won't judge them all on these cases.
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( , Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:25, Share, Reply)
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bad scholarship, and ideas that are a lot more modern and a lot less traditional than they realise.
( , Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:28, Share, Reply)
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than listening to people tell them what they believe is wrong and taking what they say on board.
( , Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:33, Share, Reply)
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( , Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:35, Share, Reply)
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they typically accuse me of talking a load of bollocks and quoting ridiculous facts.
( , Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:04, Share, Reply)
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except the Jehovah's Witnesses that come round, if they count, and I can scarcely make a dent on them.
( , Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:14, Share, Reply)
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Just off the top of my head I can count over 20 christians I know personally (either through work, hobbies or family connections) who are absolutely fine with it - and one who isn't
4 of those have invited myself and my boyfriend to their weddings and we had a *fabulous* time chatting to the grandparents!
I know 4 openly gay christians, one of whom trained as a priest. None of those have a problem with their church (so I guess you can add at least 3 congregations to the numbers)
I'm not a christian (I tend to describe myself as ignostic) but I really don't get this whole "OMG! The church is so evil and homophobic" because it just doesn't match up with my experiences.
Sure some churches are twats, but an awful lot of them aren't.
Edit: Anecdote not data, your mileage may vary etc etc etc
( , Sun 26 Aug 2012, 15:18, Share, Reply)
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(I'm so glad to see your comment, because b3ta can get me down sometimes with the hate that some people post)
I'm sure there is a huge silent majority of atheists and agnostics who feel as deeply embarrassed to be categorised with twat-atheists as I am to be categorised with twat-christians (my beloved brothers and sisters, but boy do they vex me sorely sometimes). Just as there are likely muslims who get frustrated that the outsiders' perception of them as a group is so coloured by the actions of the jihadists. I couldn't say authoritatively on this though: I've not met many muslims as I live in a very anglo-saxon part of the UK.
( , Mon 27 Aug 2012, 10:04, Share, Reply)