Did you see the Stop? Definitely not up to code.
This is what the law calls an inherently dangerous situation. In that case, landowners and proprietors have a higher standard of care to the public. They should at least have had the Stop painted in letters that were up to code, but also installed flashing lights and other indicators for drivers.
The pilot should have also been aware of the location of the road and not come in so low at the beginning of the runway. Those little planes don't need all the tarmac to stop.
Edit: Morning Miss F! No problemo. I'm imagining you will be up late tomorrow night too?
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 5 Nov 2012, 15:22,
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Nah,
Just leave it to the free market, it'll all work out just fine ;-)
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The free market WILL handle it.
Remember, the common law has been in place for hundreds of years. In the absence of regulation, businesses keep an eye on legal precedent that affects them.
There will be litigation. They will find the airport partially at fault, the pilot partially at fault and maybe the driver. The result will be that the airport will FINALLY install real safety devices and indicators and put rules in pilot's books regarding the road and how a pilot may not drop below a certain level over that road. Tah dah!
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 5 Nov 2012, 15:30,
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Then the State should be abolished along with that pesky common law.
Coke & Nintendo should be in charge of the world.
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We inherited the common law from the English. Perhaps you have a point.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 5 Nov 2012, 16:10,
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The pilot will be found absolutely blameless.
FAR part 91, subpart B, § 91.113 Right-of-way rules:
Aircraft, while on final approach to land or while landing, have the right-of-way over other aircraft in flight or operating on the surface.
The airport operator, not so:
FAR part 139, subpart D, § 139.329 Pedestrians and ground vehicles:
In a manner authorized by the Administrator, each certificate holder must—
(a) Limit access to movement areas and safety areas only to those pedestrians and ground vehicles necessary for airport operations;
(b) Establish and implement procedures for the safe and orderly access to, and operation in, movement areas and safety areas by pedestrians and ground vehicles, including provisions identifying the consequences of noncompliance with the procedures by an employee, tenant, or contractor;
The driver of the SUV should also have her ass sued off for negligence. "I didn't see it" isn't an excuse if a cyclist bounces off your bonnet, it certainly isn't if a plane does so.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 5 Nov 2012, 19:29,
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yeah, the words could be bigger, and flashing lights would help. but that still does not mean a driver should not be aware of their surroundings. i don't think you can fault the pilot on this one either, his approach looked quite normal to me.
(and i still stand by my statement that woman is a bitch haha)
nah, i think i will pass on the tv drama of red states vs blue states and endless speculation and see how badly florida screwed things up this time the following morning.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Mon 5 Nov 2012, 15:31,
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the last thing we need is so called 'authorities' telling us what's safe.
nope. give me good old personal responsibility and a pump action shot gun any day.
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Balls, how about the driver taking responsibility?
He was driving metres away from the end of a runway, that alone should've raised his vigilance levels.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Mon 5 Nov 2012, 16:42,
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